I have another Full Auto Fun Video this one focusing on 4.5mm Steel BB Versus 6mm Plastic and which one is better in terms of accuracy and shredding power. I perform this super scientific test by shooting obviously in full auto two comparable Steel BB and Plastic Airsoft Rifles at a paper target setup 20 feet away with a magazine as a backer so I can see what the accuracy is like and how much of the paper magazine gets shredded by each ammo being tested.
I have split this video into three separate videos, in video one I compare two similar AR styled rifles, a CO2 powered Blowback 4.5mm BB Rifle to a Gas Blowback 6mm Airsoft Rifle. In video two I compare two AK type Blowback Rifles to each otters, again a CO2 4.5mm Steel BB along with a Gas 6mm Airsoft.
And lastly in Video three I compare my top picks for each category which include a non-Blowback CO2 4.5mm BB Machine gun to an AEG 6mm Airsoft Rifle.
For this Video 2 Accuracy Test I shoot all of the above listed Airguns at a paper target setup 30 feet down range using a semi rested shooting position with my hands resting on a sand bag up front and seated on a stool in the back. It’s not perfect but works well enough. I didn’t take a ton of time with each gun since there where 4 to shoot in this Field Test Shooting Video so accuracy may have been a bit better if I took a little more time with each gun.
In Video 2 I test the power and penetration of each Airgun option shooting at a pop can, a soup can and a toilet paper roll so make sure to watch that video if you have not already watched it.
For this Video 1 Power Test I shoot all of the above listed Airguns first at a pop can, then a soup can and then a toilet paper roll. The ides is to test penetration abilities with the pop and soup can and then raw force shooting the toilet paper as it will absorb all the energy from each airgun round and by gauging how much the toilet paper reacts or moves it should tell us which airgun has the most raw power or energy.
In Video 2 I will be testing accuracy using my standard 30 round paper target setup in the Replica Airguns Sea Can so stay posted for that upcoming video shortly…
This is Video 2 of the Full Auto Fun 2022 video series where I shoot my Crosman AK1 Duel CO2 Full Auto BB Machine Gun at some water filled cans and a paper gel target just for some good old fun times! In Video 1 which is already posted, I tested out the Crosman A4-P Duel CO2 Full Auto BB Gun. And in Video 3 which I have not posted yet I will be shooting the Air Ordnance SMG .22 which is a PCP powered Full Auto .22 Caliber Pellet Machine Gun to finish this 2022 Full Auto Fun Series off.
In this years 2022 Full Auto Fun Video series I take three Full auto Airguns outside in the yard and have some fun with them shooting at water filled cans and a gel target. I picked two Full Auto CO2 4.5mm Steel BB Guns from Crosman, the A4-P AR-15 Pistol and the AK1 Rifle which is a modernized AK 47. The Crosman A4-P representing my most compact entry with the Crosman AK1 representing my mid size entry even though it is fairly large. I end this series with the Air Ordnance SMG .22 which is a PCP powered Full Auto .22 Caliber Pellet Machine Gun and yes this represents my large or at least most powerful choice for this years 2022 Full Auto Fun Video.
In this video, (Video 1 of the series) I have some Full Auto Fun with the Crosman A4-P, watch and enjoy along with me as I place 100 rounds down range ripping up some water filled cans and putting holes in my gel target.
In this Field Test Shooting Video I go outside for a bit of a change and test out the Beeman Longhorn II 10611 .177 .22 Break Barrel Pellet Rifle Combo to see what the real world velocity is and what kind of accuracy I can expect shooting at much further out ranges than my Sea Can Airgun Range offers me. If you want to know more about specifications and details for this Break Barrel Spring Piston Air Riffle make sure to watch my Table Top Video for information along with more closeup video.
Starting with the velocity for the Beeman Longhorn II 10611 .177 .22 Break Barrel Pellet Rifle Combo, Beeman claims up to 495 fps but does not say weather thesis for the .22 or .177 caliber barrel? I placed 5 rounds through my Chronograph using the .22 Caliber barrel option and was able to average 432 fps using 14.3 grain lead pellets which gave me an energy of 5.93 foot pounds. I would say it is safe to say that you can hit close to the claimed velocity of 495 fps with .22 Caliber lead pellets but would need to be using a bit light grain pellets closer to around 10 or 11 grain. I did not test .177 caliber pellets but they are even lighter and will have an even higher velocity most likely be over 500 fps.
While I was testing velocity to make things more efficient I also placed my shots on a paper target setup around what I estimate to be around 80 feet down range. Now I admit I am not the best long range shooter especially with Spring Piston Air Rifles but I was able to get around a 4 inch grouping at this distance with two shots on top of each other and the other three where more sporadic but I’m pretty sure the spreed was mostly because of my shooting skills with a rifle like this. I was using the provided Beeman 4x30 optical scope for this test rather than the open sights. My pellet choice was .22 Caliber Crosman Premier Hollow Point 14.3 grain lead Pellets.
What I like about the Beeman Longhorn II 10611 .177 .22 Break Barrel Pellet Rifle Combo is for sure the smooth trigger, the ability to change barrel to either .177 Caliber or .22 Caliber and I like the feel of the stock with its modern look and pistol grip for a comfortable hold. I was not a fan of the 4x30 scope as it seemed a bit fuzzy to me, maybe the optics where off on mine as the other Beeman 4x30 scope that came with the 1042 I tested was super crisp? Lastly I have to say the break barrel on this spring piston does take some arm strength so if you are smaller or not as strong then you may have difficulty cocking the Beeman Longhorn II 10611 .177 .22 Break Barrel Pellet Rifle Combo. All in all it’s a good overall springer with lots of features for a relatively low cost.
Type:Pellet Rifle. Manufacturer: Beeman Model:Longhorn II 10611. Materials: Metal and Polymer. Weight: 8.5 pounds (3.77kg). Barrel: 18 inches (45.7mm). Propulsion: Spring Piston. Action: Single Action Single Shot. Ammunition Type: .177 and .22 Caliber Pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 1. Max FPS: 495 Claimed.
Trigger Pull: The trigger on the Beeman Longhorn II 10611 .177 .22 Break Barrel Pellet Rifle is single action only requiring you to break the barrel and compress the internal spring piston before you can shoot it. This will also engage the safety which you have to disengage for each shot manually as an added safety measure. The actual trigger pull is pretty good overall. There is very little take-up but the creep is on the longer side but very smooth not requiring too much pressure. The release is also smooth but will take a bit of time to learn just exactly when it is going to release. There is an adjustment screw for the trigger but it is not advertised or explained in the manual exactly how this effects the trigger pull so a bit of trial and error may improve the trigger feel.
Accuracy: I have not performed any shooting tests with the Beeman Longhorn II 10611 .177 .22 Break Barrel Pellet Rifle so far, I hope to make that Video Review next week “weather permitting” as I want to get outdoors for this test to be able to shoot it at longer ranges. I expect the Beeman Longhorn II 10611 .177 .22 Break Barrel Pellet Rifle to perform well in the accuracy department especially with the 4x32 optical scope installed. In terms of power I did notice that the spring does seem ot be fairly strong so I am hoping to get close to the claimed 495 fps even using .22 caliber heavier grain pellets.
Build Quality: The Beeman Longhorn II 10611 .177 .22 Break Barrel Pellet Rifle is a China made Air Rifle but looks to be well made. It is mostly metal other than the synthetic modern stock, even the iron fiber optic sights are full metal front and back. I am not a big fan of the stock texture patter but it does work to add extra grip.
Realism: The Beeman Longhorn II 10611 .177 .22 Break Barrel Pellet Rifle is not a copy of any real steel gun in production but does have that overall rifle shape to it so yet it looks like a gun but most people will be able to immediately see that it is a Pellet Rifle and that is exactly what it is since it is not trying to be anything other than that.
Pros:
Comes with two barrels for .177 and .22 caliber pellets.
Comes with included 4x32 scope and ring mounts.
Durable synthetic stock with modern look and pistol grip.
Can also shoot using included iron metal fiber optic adjustable sights.
Automatic trigger safety system.
Rated at 495 fps using .22 caliber pellets so top out at max Canada legal power without a firearms license.
Nice rubber butt-pad looks good and adds to shooting comfort.
Has a scope stop so your scope will stay nicely in place.
Really well priced for what you get which is two rifles one.
Cons:
Changing out barrels does require tools.
Not a big fan of the stock texturing pattern.
Made in China.
Comments: The Beeman Longhorn II 10611 .177 .22 Break Barrel Pellet Rifle is a very affordable Break Barrel Spring Piston Pellet Rifle that offers two Airguns in one with it’s interchangeable barrel system allowing you to shoot either .177 or .22 Caliber pellets. You also have the option of using the already installed Fiber Optic fully adjustable sights or you can install the included 4x32 Optical Scope for potential longer range shooting. The modern looking synthetic stock with it’s pistol grip and rubber butt-pad will make shouldering this Air Rifle super comfortable and I would imagine help with accuracy at the end of the day.
In this Field Test Shooting Video for the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol I perform two main tests to find out what the velocity and accuracy capabilities are for it first using my Chronograph and shooting several rounds through it averaging out the fps. For the second test I shoot 7 rounds into a fresh paper target 30 feet down range to see how tight of a grouping I can get.
For my Velocity test Beeman claims the P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is capable of around 410 fps using standard lead pellets which I found to be a very close estimate as my results using 6.9 grain lead pellets achieved a 4 shot average of 404 fps so only 6 fps off the claim. There are lighter lead pellets out there and even lighter alloy pellets so higher velocities are possible using less grain pellets but a decent grain pellet hitting 400+ fps is not bad considering only one pump is required to get max velocity from the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol.
Moving on to the accuracy portion of the test I setup a fresh paper target 30 feet away and proceeded to put 7 rounds into it shooting from a seated and rested shooting position (sand bag up front, seated in the back). I was a bit surprised to only get a 1.5 inch grouping but it seemed like there where three separate sub groups that each overlapped within themselves? I think perhaps when I pumped the gun I may have been disrupting the rear sight a bit as it does have some play in it for adjustments so you want to be careful not to place your hands on the rear sight when cooking the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol. Out of the box the shot placement was fairly well centered with two of the rounds right dead center of the bulls-eye.
I kind of want to do a retest at some point maybe with a different pellet and also making sure not place my hands over the rear sight when cocking the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol as I feel this Target Pellet Pistol is capable of .5 inch groupings. The trigger is really nice and the rifled barrel is a decent length with easy to use sights so this Air Pistol should do a bit better than I was able to get shooting it on this day. Either way it is a really fun gun to shoot and with a bit of time figuring it out I am confident you can get better results than I did.
Trigger Pull: The Single action only trigger pull on the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is excellent, super light with just a little bit of take-up, the release is very predictable, one of the best target pistol triggers I have reviewed for sure. There is no adjustment but I do not feel it is nessisary at all.
Accuracy: Spoiler alert! Before posting the written version of this review I did make the Field Test Shooting Video so I can give you a little bit of a heads up on how well the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol in its Field Test Shooting Video. In terms of velocity it was really close to the 410 fps using lead pellets and for accuracy I was pleased with there results but feel the gun can do better than the result I got on this day, perhaps a different pellet choice, some more break in time or maybe just me shooting on a different day. That said I confident this gun is very capable of getting groupings under an inch in the right conditions, maybe even 1/2 an inch.
Build Quality: The build quality of the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is good considering it is a sub $100 target pistol with a great trigger, fully adjustable fiber optic sights and only one pump to get maximum velocity. The outer shell is polymer while the pump and valve body are aluminum with the barrel and main valve made out of steel. the trigger and latch are also metal.
Realism: The Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is not really a replica of a real steel gun in production per-say but the pistol grips are very Walther P series looking so if you are Walther owner or like the grips on the Walther P series guns then you will enjoy the hold of the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol.
Pros:
Reasonable price for an accurate full featured target pistol.
Safety automatically resets to the safe position when you pump/charge the pistol.
No need for CO2 so very inexpensive to shoot.
Virtually no recoil or vibration like you find in spring piston airguns.
Fiber optic front and back sight, also fully adjustable for windage and elevation.
Quality materials where you need them for expected long life and use.
Only requires one pump for full 410 fps power.
Works great for left and right handed shooters.
Good if you like Walther type pistol grips, same shape and feel as many P series pistols.
Excellent trigger feel and pull.
Cons:
Loading pellets is a bit awkward.
Have to pump it for each shot, no action shooting here.
Not rally a replica if that’s what you are after but generally most Spring Piston or Pneumatic Airguns are not replicas with a couple exceptions.
Comments: So the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is not really a Replica or even an action shooter but it does have its place in an airgun collection. I love blasting pop cans just as much as the next person but sometimes I like to slow things down and see how accurate I can get with an Airgun and not be too concerned that the gun is interfering with the accuracy. This is one way to really improve your shooting skills and having to work for each shot makes it that much more rewarding. The Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol allows you to have a great time honing in your shooting skills for not a lot of cash up front and cost per shot is only whatever the pellets cost you.
In this Preview Unboxing Video I showcase three Pellet Guns from Beeman, one Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol and two Break Barrel .177 and .22 Caliber Pellet Rifles. I don’t go into a lot of details on each Airgun as I am leaving that information for my future Table Top and Field Test Videos. This video is mainly a heads up on these products with links to where you can buy them in our Online Replica Airgun Store.
In this Field Test Shooting Video I test out the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol in the Indoor Airgun Sea Can Shooting Range to find out what the real world velocity and accuracy is for it. I first put 5 rounds through my Chronograph and average out the fps and then I setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range and put 10 rounds into it to see how close of a grouping I can get. If you want more details and specifications on the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol then checkout my Table Top Video for that information.
Starting off with the Chronograph velocity test Sig says you can expect around 300 fps. I was able to average 286 fps using a brand new CO2 in what I would consider to be about a room temperature which means in warmer conditions I am sure we can get the claimed 300 fps made by Sig Sauer. I have been able to get higher velocities with other KWC 1911’s so perhaps with slightly lower fps for the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol we may get more shots per CO2?
Next I loaded 10 rounds into the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol and carefully placed them into a paper target 30 feet down range. I was using a seated position in the back with my hands resting on a sand bag up front which is fairly stable but there will still be some human factor which can effect overall accuracy a bit. My results where decent with about a 2 inch grouping that included 6 rounds right in the bullseye so out of the box the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol sights where good to go.
The Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is another nice addition to the KWC built 1911 lineup and I do like the Sig Sauer/KWC customization of this version, maybe one of my favorite KWC 1911’s out there? You can expect around 300 fps and nice 2 inch grouping at 30 feet which will make this a perfect action plinker for shooting pop cans or targets at close to medium ranges.
Type:BB Pistol. Manufacturer: Sig Sauer Model:1911 Emperor Scorpion. Materials: Mostly all metal build. Weight: 2.1 pounds (953 Grams). Barrel: 4.3 inches (109.2mm) - Non-rifled. Propulsion: 12 gram CO2. Action: Blowback single action only. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm Steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 16 round full size drop out metal magazine. Max FPS: 300+.
Trigger Pull: The Single action only trigger pull on the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is typical of what you will find on a KWC Blowback 1911, and that’s a good thing since it is short light and crisp similar to a real 1911 semi auto pistol.
Accuracy: I haven’t done my official field test shooting video so I can not comment exactly on how well this version of the KWC 1911 series will perform, but since I havre reviewed many similar versions of the KWC 1911, it should shoot similarly. That said I hope to expect a velocity around 300-330 fps and a 10 shot grouping between 1.5 and 2.5 inches.
Build Quality: The Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol like the other KWC 1911 Blowback BB Pistols has in a sense been perfected over time as the Original Tanfoglio Witness 1911 I Review came out over a decade ago and although it did have a few problems at first with the safety it all got worked out in the end and versions today are well made and reliable. As with all Airguns the metals used are not firearms grade quality so you do need to be a bit more careful with them but if you do you will get years of use out of them.
Realism: The Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is a lsenced replica of the real steel Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion 45 ACP and from looking at photos on line or the Sig Sauer 45 APC version it is virtually identical in a appearance other than the hammer which on the 45 ACP version seems to have a larger and more oval skeletonized opening. That’s pretty minor in the scheme of things. As this is a full blowback Air Pistol, the mechanical functions mimic the real steal version very well and as expected you can even fully field strip this BB Pistol.
Pros:
Based on the tried and true KWC 1911. Most parts should be mix and match.
Full blowback operation.
Excellent SAO 1911 trigger as expected.
Full metal construction, has great realistic weight to it.
Easy to see white dot sights front and back.
Tactical with ambidextrous safety controls.
Rail for adding on accessories like a laser or Tac light.
Nice reassessed barrel ads to the realism.
Love the two tone color scheme.
Full Sig Sauer licensing.
Looks virtually identical to the real steel Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion..
Cons:
Will go through CO2 fairly quickly.
Lower fps because of full blowback operation.
Sights are none adjustable.
Comments: Every time a new Blowback 1911 Airgun comes out I seem to say this one is my new favorite and well here we go again… Not only do I like 1911’s I also really like Sigs. I also seem to be a fan of town tone guns as it makes the parts on the gun really stand out in contrast to each other and I like that look. So when you put all of these things together it makes for a real winner in my books. With so many Blowback 1911 choices out there it is hard to make up ones mind, I would consider the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol to be in the top 3 for sure!
In this Update Preview Unboxing Video I take a look at 4 newer products that just came across my table and are in our Replica Airguns Online Stores. One is a CO2 Blowback BB Pistol, one is a CO2 .43 Caliber Paintball Pistol and two are GBB Airsoft Pistols, so a rather nice selection for us to take a look at here! I will be following up this Update Preview Unboxing Video with proper Table Top and Field Test Shooting Video to find out all the details and how well they perform.
In this Field Test Shooting Review I test out the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver in the Replica Airguns Sea Can Indoor Shooting Range to find out its velocity and accuracy using both 4.5mm Steel BB’s and .177 Caliber Lead Pellets. The version I am using is the BB version but my viewers have informed me that the BB version may in fact shoot just as well as the pellet version using pellets even without the rifled barrel due to how pellets are shaped not always requiring a rifled barrel to fly true. So let’s find out!
Starting with the velocity test, I shot 4 rounds of each ammo through my Chronograph using a fresh CO2 cartridge. Umarex claims the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver is able to get a maximum fps of 420 using standard 4.5mm steel BB’s and I was able to average 396 so every close. In warmer conditions 420 fps should be possible. Switching to the .177 caliber lead pellets the fps lowered a bit to an average of 323 fps as expected since the pellets are much heavier (around 7 grain versus 5 grain). I would expect the energy of the pellets to be a bit higher and also keep that energy out to further ranges so if you plan to shoot longer ranges perhaps go with the lead pellets over the BB’s as long as they are similar in accuracy which I test next.
For the accuracy portion of the test I again started off with the 4.5mm Steel BB’s and fired 6 rounds into my paper target setup 30 feet down range. I shot the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver using a seated shooting position with my hands resting up front on a sand bag to help with stability but it’s not perfect and there is always some human factor to consider. That said I was able to shoot a 1.5 inch 6 shot grouping with the BB’s and if I remove one outlier from the group that reduced it to closer to around an inch so not too bad for a BB shooter. I then switching up to the .177 caliber lead pellets and was a bit surprised that even without a rifled barrel the pellets seemed to perform better than the Steel BB’s getting a solid 1 inch grouping with no real outliers in it!
Unfortunately I do not have the actual rifled barrel version of the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 Revolver. Perhaps in the future I can compare the BB verso to the Pellet version using pellets to see if there is an improvement with the addition of the rifled barrel. I can say the BB version without the rifled version shoots pellets just fine at least up to 30 feet so feel free to shoot whatever ammo you want to with it and not be worried about compromising accuracy or velocity.
Type: BB Pistol. Manufacturer: Umarex. Model: M29. Materials: Metal & plastic. Weight: 2.5 pounds (1135 grams). Barrel Length: 8.375 inches (Smooth bore). Total Length: 12.13 inches. Propulsion: 12 gram CO2 cartridge. Action: Revolver, single and double action. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's (Also available in 6mm Airsoft). Ammunition Capacity: 6 rounds. FPS: 420fps claimed.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver is light in single action but not too light, there is virtually no take up and the release is predictable. In double action the trigger pull is heavier as the cylinder and hammer are both actuated manually by the trigger but even so the pull is not what I would call heavy for a double action revolver. The double action trigger pull is nice and even and will not tire out your finger too much firing all six rounds quickly.
Accuracy: At this point i have not made my Field Test Shooting portion of my review for the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver but I expect to get close to the 420 fps claimed velocity and I also expect to shoot around a 1 to 2 inch grouping based on my past experienced with similar Shell Loading BB Revolvers. I may even pull of a 1/5 inch group if I am on my game and so is the gun… We will have to all wait till next week when I record the shooting portion of my review for the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver.
Build Quality: Overall the all metal build quality of the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver is very good. The black chrome finish looks really nice but does show every finger print and any grease from your hands. The imitation wood grips look just like real wood and with only the exception of a small scratch or crack in the front plastic red sight, the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver was flawless.
Realism: The Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver is the same revolver used in one of the Dirty Hariy Movies and really looks exactly the same. As with all the shell loading BB/pellet/Airsoft Revolvers, they look and perform exactly like the real steel versions other than recoil of course. The only give away for the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver would be the diameter of the shells as Umarex decided to repurpose the 38/357 shells used in their other smaller caliber shell loading revolvers. It would have been nice to have a larger 44/45 caliber sized shell that they could use in both the Colt 45 Single Action Army Revolvers and this 44 Magnum version of the Smith and Wesson M29 Revolver. The barrel opening is closer to that of a 44 Magnum so they did get that part right.
Pros:
Classic iconic 44 magnum movie revolver.
Mostly all metal build.
Good overall weight, it’s big so expected to weigh a fair amount.
Lots of detail, well made, fit and finish is very good.
Fully S&W Licensed via Umarex.
Love the black chrome look but prone to finger prints.
Simulated wood grips look real enough.
Should have good overall power, accuracy and shots per CO2 (claimed around 80 per CO2).
Adjustable rear sight for windage/elevation with red dot front sight.
CO2 Allen key built into grip.
Recessed barrel true to 44 magnum opening size.
Nice Trigger pull in both single and double action.
Cons:
Shells are closer to 357 not 44 magnum in size.
Don’t like the white writing on the right side.
Black chrome finish shows lots of finger prints and grease.
Comments:
I really like that Umarex decided to give us this more classic Revolver to add to our collection of Airgun Revolvers! I was a big fan of the Dirty Harry Movies so this gun is for sure going to be part of my Airgun collection and even if you are not a fan, you should probably be a fan of the Smith and Wesson M29 which was considered to be one of the most powerful revolvers back in its day. Right now you can get it in 4.5mm Steel BB and 6mm Plastic Airsoft but hopefully there is a .177 caliber Pellet version on its way at some point.
My Table Top Video of the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver:
I have a nice Airgun Pistol Update Unboxing video to checkout where I take a look at 5 Airguns four of which are Gas Blowback Airsoft Pistols and one is a CO2 BB Revolver. I don’t go into a lot of details here on each Airgun as this is mainly just a preview video to let everyone know we have these products in our Online Replica Airgun Stores and give a you a quick look at them. I will be following up with individual Table Top and Field Test Videos where I go into more details and also show you how each gun performs in the Replica Airguns Indoor Sea Can Shooting Range.
Yet another Field test Shooting review for the Crosman AR line of CO2 BB Blowback Full Auto Machine Guns. Today I test out the Pistol version or A4-P model. Basically this is the same BB Gun mechanically as all the other Crosman AR’s but with some cosmetic differences which can affect power and accuracy a bit. And that would be a slightly shorter barrel which can reduce velocity and the lack of a but stock for less stability.
As always I first test out the power or velocity for the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun, I always use brand new CO2 and make sure the temperature is not too cold in the Replica Airguns Sea Can. Crosman claims around 400+ fps for the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun and in my Chronograph test I was able to get a 5 shot average of 357 fps. The temperature was not super warm so I would expect on a hot summer day to get closer to 400 fps so pretty close.
I then proceeded to see what kind of accuracy I could get from the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun shooting 10 rounds in semi auto at a paper target setup 30 feet down range. I use a stabilized shooting position with the Airgun resting on a sand bag up front and me sitting on a stool in the back so the lack of a stock was not a huge drawback here. Regular stand up shooting and not being able to shoulder this Airgun as easily will mean a difference for sure. In semi auto mode with 10 rounds I was able to get around a 2 inch group but I would say this BB Machine gun should get closer to a 1 inch grouping as 8 out of the 10 rounds where all within 1 inch of each other so perhaps some human error on my part was at play here. Just for fun I unloaded the last 15 rounds in full auto on the unsuspecting target and as expected the grouping widened to around 4-5 inches.
Personally I prefer the Crosman AR Full Auto BB guns with a rear stock for that added extended shoulder support but the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun will fit much better into a back pack if you want to take it out in the woods for some shooting fun. Not everyone has a proper backyard or indoor range to use! the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is also one of the coolest looking in this lineup so that has to count for something ;) I wonder what Crosman has planned for their line of Full Auto BB Machine guns now that they have several AR versions and even the AK1. Maybe an MP5 or a SCAR?
Type: BB Pistol/Rifle. Manufacturer: Crosman. Model: A4-P. Materials: Metal & plastic. Weight: 5.3 pounds (2.4 kilograms). Length: 21.2 inches. Propulsion: 12 gram CO2 dual cartridges. Action: Blowback - Semi & full auto, single action only. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 25 rounds. FPS: 430fps. Rate of Fire: 1400 rounds per minute in full auto
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is single action only since the charging handle must be cocked first before you can shoot it. The trigger is short and fairly light as you would expect from an AR type trigger action. The real fun happens with the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun when you switch it over to full auto mode and with just one pull and hold of the trigger you empty the 25 round magazine in mere seconds. You may want to pickup the Crosman High Capacity magazine if you plan on doing a lot fo full auto shooting!
Accuracy: I have not made my Field Test Shooting Video just yet but you can checkout my Field Test Shooting Video for the Crosman R1 CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun which is a very similar product to the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun. I test out the Crosman R1 CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun using my Chronograph where I get an average of 385 fps and a nice 30 foot grouping of right around 1 inch in semi out and a decently tight full auto group of about 3-4 inches. We should expect about the same with the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun as long as not being able to shoulder it is a big factor?
Build Quality: The Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is well made all around just like the rest of the Crosman AR series of BB Machine Guns. Weighing in at 5.3 pounds without any add on accessories it feel solid and well built. There is a lot of metal going on inside and out of this rifle but keep in mind the top and bottom receiver are plastic with metal parts where they need to be like in the internals, pretty much all the working parts are metal, the magazine is full metal, the buffer tub is metal, charging handle, selector switch, magazine release, bolt release, trigger and of course the barrel is metal.
Realism: The Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is about as real as you are going to get in a CO2 Blowback AR/M4 styled Airgun. You can even take it apart and split the top and bottom receivers like the real steal version. The blowback action gives you some recoil but more importantly offers a true single action trigger and of course the full auto ability we all love. Almost all the working parts work like they would on a real AR / M4 other than the forward assist which is moulded into the receiver. Keep in mind this is the pistol version but like other AR styled “Pistols” the buffer tube area is still required to make the action work.
Pros:
Super realistic working M4/AR 4.5mm BB Rifle just like the other Crosman Rifles in this lineup.
Full blowback operation with both semi and full auto shooting, can feel the blowback operation rocking the gun.
Great weight and feel to it.
Almost everything works exactly like the real steel version. (Charging handle, dust cover, bolt release, magazine release, selector switch).
Duel CO2 metal drop out magazine that holds the 25 4.5mm steel BB’s as well as the dual CO2.
Compact maneuverable pistol version but may be able to add an AR butt stock if you want?
Included red dot sight and ability to add pop-up iron sights.
Lots of rails for mounting additional cool hardware.
Removable flash hider.
Works with Crosman High Capacity magazine.
Cons:
Receiver is plastic but well made and does not compromise feel or weight since there is lots of metal throughout this gun.
No iron sights included.
No but stock included.
Comments:
The Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is really pretty much the same as the Crosman DPMS SBR and Crosman MPW and Crosman R1 CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun with more or less Cosmetic changes, most notably being the lack of a butt stock and being more of the pistol version. Like the otters Crosman AR products, the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun has an AR compatible pistol grip, adn like the Crosman R1 CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun you also have the ability to change out the flash hider, you can even put a mock suppression on in it if you choose to. No matter which of the Crosman AR Full Auto CO2 BB Rifles you chooses to get they are mechanically every similar and share most of the same parts. If you want the most compact version than the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is the way to go!
My Table Top Video of the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun:
In this Field Test Shooting Video I put some lead pellets through the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol to see what the real world velocity is compared to the claimed fps. I also put 7 rounds into a paper target setup 30 feet downrange to find out just how accurate and what kind of grouping I can get from this compact spring piston replica air pistol! If you have not already watched my Table Top Review for the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol then make sure to watch if for more specifications and details along with some nice close up video.
For my Chronograph test I placed 5 rounds through my Chrony using 8.18 grain Sig Sauer Match Precision Wadcutter Lead Pellets and was able to average 312 fps so just shy of the claimed 320 fps but there are lighter lead pellets out there and even lighter alloy pellets so higher fps can be achieved with this Air Pistol if you plan on using lighter pellets.
For the accuracy portion of my Field test Shooting Video for the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol, I ended up placing 7 rounds into a fresh paper target setup 30 feet down range. I was using my standard seated and rested shooting position which does offer a fairly stable shooting platform but not without some degree of human interaction. I was a little bit disappointed in the 2 inch grouping I got, I was expecting closer to a 1 inch group but I would have had to have been on my game and maybe today I was not. Pellet choice can also effect accuracy for sure and so maybe a different pellet would have performed better in this test. Most of the variable was up and down not left to right with only about an inch side to side.
All in all the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol did a good job hitting velocities as claimed and producing a decent grouping that I feel I could have improved upon once I got use to the lighter firmer trigger than I would like to see on a Ruger Mark IV Replica to match the real steal one more closely. Shot placement out of the box was close to the bullseye, it just needed to move up a bit and a tad to the right but once the sights are adjustable for windage and elevation this is easily fixed with a few turns of the sighting screws. If you are a Ruger 22LR owner than I would suggest you buy one of these Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistols and shoot for even less cost per shot and in more locations since this Air Pistol is super quiet and most makeshift backstops will work with it just fine.
