Since I pretty much took my Cybergun KWC Desert Eagle .50AE CO2 Airsoft Pistol right out of the box and started shooting I did not have the chance to set the hop-up or even figure out exactly where it was shooting and as I found out it was shooting rather high and the .20 gram BB's may have been a bit light since they seemed to spray all over. Either way I did manage to hit a few targets after eating up all the CO2 and shooting off two full mags of Airsoft Ammo...
Here is my second instalment for this summers Full Auto Fun Videos. in this Full Auto Fun Video I shoot my KWC M712 Broomhandle CO2 BB Pistol at some more water filled Pop Cans and Clay Pigeons in Full Auto mode of course :)
Last summer I made some "Full Auto Fun" videos and well... I had a lot of fun making them and of course shooting the full auto airguns. So I got to thinking I should make some more Full Auto Fun videos again this summer, at least for some of the new Full Auto guns I have not made these videos for yet.
So to kick it off, I brought out my Umarex Beretta Mod. 92 A1 CO2 BB Pistol and shot up some clay pigeons and water filled cans in Full Auto Mode of course :)
Make sure to watch my Vimeo video for this Comparison Review as I go into a lot of detail about the similarities and difference with each of these CO2 Blowback Pellet Guns.
All of these CO2 blowback pellet guns are made for each company in Japan (I am assuming from the same factory?)
All of the listed Pellet Airguns shoot .177 caliber pellets (Can be Alloy or Lead)
They all have double sided rotary stick magazines that hold 8 rounds on each end for a total of 16 shots per magazine.
All of the Airguns use 12 gram CO2.
All compared pellet guns have Blowback operation.
All of these pellet pistols have single and double action triggers except for the Gamo MP9 which is single action only and needs to be charged on the first shot.
They all have rifled barrels.
Here is where we find some key differences between these CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols:
This is not an Airgun video but I know some of my viewers have shown some interest in the Fitness Contests I compete in and what I do over on my other Fitness Channel, GetFitOver40.com.
My latest Fitness Contest I entered (July 10th) was the Vancouver Pro Am BC Championships where I competed in Men's Masters and Open Physique classes. I placed 1st in Masters which is my actual age category of 40+ and I also placed second in Open which is for all ages young and old to compete head to head! I now get to go to the this years Canadian Nationals held August 13th 2016 representing the province of British Columbia :)
This YouTube video is the Awards portion of the show where we do a little posing and then find out how we all did?
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Sig Sauer ASP P250 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a lot better than I thought it was going to be. The blowback operation does place the hammer in the cocked position for single action type shooting but the the trigger is still required to index or advance the next pellet to line up with the barrel. Because of this, trigger pull is full length even in single action mode but you can barely feel any added friction from the indexing of the rotary magazine. All of this makes for a slightly longer trigger pull but one that is light weight with a fairly nice and easy release. For some reason the Sig Sauer P226 trigger does feel a little smoother with a slightly easier release.
Accuracy: I have not done my official Field Test Shooting Video with the Sig Sauer ASP P250 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol and I am not sure when I am going to get the chance to do so since I am waiting on a replacement Chronograph for my velocity portion of my testing. That said I can say that Sig has already done some of the work for me and conducted their own "real world" velocity testing for their ASP line of CO2 Pellet Guns. Sig tested both a standard 8.18 grain lead pellet and a high velocity 5.25 grain alloy pellet shooting an 8 shot string with each to find out average fps performance for both pellet types. The 8.18 grain lead pellet average 353 fps while the 5.25 grain alloy pellet average 399 fps. In terms of accuracy, I was able to get just under a 2 inch 16 shot well centered grouping on two separate 30 foot back tests which is pretty decent. I did notice that when shooting a 16 shot string, the first and last shot velocity will vary a fair amount as the CO2 cools the gun and lowers the fps. I would recommend taking your time in-between reloads to let the Sig Sauer ASP P250 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol warm back up.
Build Quality: The Sig Sauer ASP P250 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a bit on the lighter side coming in around 1.5 pounds since it does incorporate both metal and plastic construction. You will find the Sig Sauer P250 has a metal slide and plastic frames similar to the real steel version. Weighing it at 1.45 pounds, the P250 is lighter then a standard Sig Sauer P250. Sig claims that their entire APS line of pellet guns is life tested for 15,000 shots so you know this gun is going to last and provide years of shooting fun. The fit and finish seem really good, so far no real paint or finish problems and all mechanically everything is operating as it should.
Realism: The Sig Sauer ASP P250 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a very close replica of the real steel Sig Sauer P250. I really like the fact that the safety also works as a working decoker just as it would on the real Sig P250. Other similar working parts are the magazine release and the hammer that stays back for true single action shooting. The slide catch release and take down leaver are purely for show but they are not moulded in parts so they look good and realistic. One slight disappointment for me is when a gun does not have a cut out ejection port, that is the case with both the Sig Sauer ASP P226 and P250 but it does not take away from the shooting fun in any way.
Good overall replica of the real steel Sig Sauer P250.
Designed by Sig and made in Japan, fully Sig Sauer licensed.
Nice heavy blowback operation.
It might feel a bit light weight at first but out of the two Sig Sauer ASP pellet pistols this one seems to shoot a bit better.
Got respectable accuracy and seemed to shoot pretty hard.
Safety works as the de-cocker same as the real Sig Sauer P250.
White dot sights and accessory rail.
Great feel to the trigger not heavy or sticky in any way.
Cons:
Shots tended to slow down a bit near the end of a 16 shot strong as the gun cooled down.
Sight are non adjustable.
Ejection port is not cut out.
Comments:
What I really like about the Sig Sauer ASP P250 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is that like all the other APS Airgun from Sig, it is a product that Sig has decided to invest a lot of their time and effort to develop rather then simply grab an existing Airgun product from a manufacturer and slap their license on it. Sigs product ingenuity is what will help to improve the airgun industry overall. Getting back to the Sig Sauer ASP P250 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol, it may feel a bit light weight at first but the heavy blowback will rock you unexpectedly! I found in terms of comparison to the Sig Sauer ASP P226, the P250 was more accurate and well centered on target for me as well. If you're a Sig Sauer P250 owner you are for sure going to want to pick yourself up one of these ASP CO2 Blowback Airgun versions so you can get some extra practice time in for pennies per shot and the ability to shoot in a lot more locations..
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer ASP P250 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol:
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Sig Sauer ASP P226 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a lot better than I thought it was going to be. The blowback operation does place the hammer in the cocked position for single action type shooting but the the trigger is still required to index or advance the next pellet to line up with the barrel. Because of this, trigger pull is full length even in single action mode but you can barely feel any added friction from the indexing of the rotary magazine. All of this makes for a slightly longer trigger pull but one that is light weight with a fairly nice and easy release.
Accuracy: I have not done my official Field Test Shooting Video with the Sig Sauer ASP P226 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol and I am not sure when I am going to get the chance to do so since I am waiting on a replacement Chronograph for my velocity portion of my testing. That said I can say that Sig has already done some of the work for me and conducted their own "real world" velocity testing for their ASP line of CO2 Pellet Guns. Sig tested both a standard 8.18 grain lead pellet and a high velocity 5.25 grain alloy pellet shooting an 8 shot string with each to find out average fps performance for both pellet types. The 8.18 grain lead pellet average 359 fps while the 5.25 grain alloy pellet average 403 fps. In terms of accuracy, I was able to get about a 2 inch 16 shot grouping on two separate 30 foot back tests which is pretty decent. I did notice that when shooting a 16 shot string, the first and last shot velocity will vary a fair amount as the CO2 cools the gun and lowers the fps. I would recommend taking your time in-between reloads to let the Sig Sauer ASP P226 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol warm back up.
Build Quality: The Sig Sauer ASP P226 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a very solid feeling pistol with its all metal construction. Weighing it at 2.35 pounds, it is actually a tad bit heavier then the real steel version but not by much. Sig claims that their entire APS line of pellet guns is life tested for 15,000 shots so you know this gun is going to last and provide years of shooting fun. The fit and finish seem really good, so far no real paint or finish problems and all mechanically everything is operating as it should.
Realism: The Sig Sauer ASP P226 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a very close replica of the real steel Sig Sauer P226, I would say it most closely takes after the MK-25 Threaded Barrel version. I really like the fact that the safety also works as a working decoker just as it would on the real P226. Other similar working parts are the magazine release and the hammer that stays back for true single action shooting. The slide catch release and take down leaver are purely for show but they are not moulded in parts so they look the part. One slight disappointment for me is when a gun does not have a cut out ejection port, that is the case with both the Sig Sauer ASP P226 and P250 but it does not take away from the shooting fun in any way.
Good overall replica of the real steel Sig Sauer P250.
Really solid feeling gun, has awesome weight to it with it’s all mental construction, pretty close in weight the real steel version.
Designed by Sig and made in Japan, fully Sig Sauer licensed.
Nice heavy blowback operation.
Got respectable accuracy and seemed to shoot pretty hard.
Safety works as the de-cocker same as the real Sig Sauer P226.
White dot sights and accessory rail.
Super easy CO2 loading system, no having to tighten a CO2 tab.
Great feel to the trigger not heavy or sticky in any way.
Cons:
Shots tended to slow down a bit near the end of a 16 shot strong as the gun cooled down.
Sight are non adjustable.
Ejection port is not cut out.
Comments:
What I really like about the Sig Sauer ASP P226 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is that like all the other APS airguns from Sig, it is a product that Sig has decided to invest a lot of their time and effort to develop rather then simply grab an existing arigun product from a manufacturer and slap their license on it. Sigs product ingenuity is what will help to improve the airgun industry overall. Getting back to the Sig Sauer ASP P226 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol, it's a really solid CO2 Pellet pistol that is a lot of fun to shoot and for Sig Sauer P226 owners, the pellet shooting airgun version offers a super economical and safe way to get some practice in using a product that looks, feels and shoots similarly to their real steel counterpart.
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer ASP P226 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol:
I have been waiting a long time (since SHOT Show two years ago) to finally get my hands on the Sig Sauer ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols and they finally arrived at my US Post Office Box. A big thanks to Sig for sending them to me! So today I made the dreaded trip across the boarder to pick them up and then deal with the Border Custom Agents which much of the time have no idea what they are doing when it comes to Airgun Importation laws. It's not like it's their job or anything??? Today was no exception and I spent several hours waiting as my Customs Agent disappeared behind closed doors to do his research on Airgun Importation. That's another story completely that at this time I don't want to get into, perhaps I will make a video about this another time? The good news is I prevailed and was able to bring both of my new Sig Sauer Air Pistols home with me.
This video is a bit like an unboxing and preview video combined, I don't go into a lot of detail or talk specifications much but I do show you around both the Sig Sauer ASP P226 and Sig Sauer ASP P250 nice and close and in detail. I will be making a future Table Top and Shooting Video for these fine Sig Air Pistols which are both CO2 operated, have blowback operation, shoot in both single and double action, shoot lead or alloy pellets using a 16 round double sided rotary stick styled magazine, shoot around 400 fps and feature Sig Sauer licensing all around.
First off, this will be the last video where I try and use my Chrony Chronograph to determine the fps velocity for one of my airguns. It's time has come and I am officially retiring my Chrony or should I say setting aside for later destruction by means of many rounds of airgun ammo fired at it... I just need to locate and order a replacement solution, perhaps I will reach out to Chrony and see if they can help me out since they should really look into restoring my faith and many of my viewers faith in this product ;) If the airgun I am testing has blowback operation then I generally also record some slow motion video and place it in the end of the video while I am talking it out.
Moving on with my Field Test for the Air Venturi ISSC M22 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. If you have not already checkout my Table Top Review for it then make sure to do so for some close up video and the main features and benefits.
As per normal my Field Test Shooting video is composed of a Chronograph test which in this case resulted in pretty much no data other than one recorded shot which may or may not even be accurate? I also step back 30 feet and shoot 10 rounds on a paper target with my Air Venturi ISSC M22 CO2 Blowback BB Pisto to figure out how close of a grouping I can get for the sake of accuracy purposes. I do us a somewhat rested shooting position which allows me to in most cases get pretty decent results with less human factor involved.
In terms of FPS for the Air Venturi ISSC M22 CO2 Blowback BB Pisto, all we can really go on are the claimed fps specifications which are 400, I would say based on how quickly rounds get to the target and how hard they hit that 400 fps is about right, perhaps even a little more? Maybe once I get my new Chronograph I will have to revisit this gun and see what it can do.
Accuracy wise I was able to fire 10 rounds within a nice 2 inch grouping, they did shoot a bit left for me but the good news is that the Air Venturi ISSC M22 CO2 Blowback BB Pisto has an adjustable rear sight for windage so this can be corrected for each user. The blowback Action is pretty hard on this gun, very quick and snappy, it is also fairly loud when using a new CO2. There is a fair bit of trigger take-up since the first stage of the trigger pull also chambers a round into the barrel form the full size drop out magazine. Once you get to the break point of the trigger there is a bit of extra tension followed by a distinct release. It may not be the smoothest trigger I have used but it does work just fine.
Overall the Air Venturi ISSC M22 CO2 Blowback BB Pisto has a lot going for it, good looks, blowback operation with a full size drop out magazine, an adjustable rear sight, decent power and accuracy and it is an excellent replica for the real steel ISSC M22.
In this Review Video I focus on the shooting performance of the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle to find out what kind of FPS we can get out of it and exactly how accurate the MPX is from 30 feet back using a fairly stable semi rested shooting position. I'll tell you right away my Chrony Chronograph has officially called it quits and I will be looking at replacing it for future Field Test Shooting videos. Lucky for us Sig sent me their real world inhouse testing using both 5.25 grain high velocity pellets and standard 8.18 grain lead pellets.
Here are the average results Sig achieved from each pellet type shooting an 8 shot string.
5.25 Grain Alloy High Velocity Pellets:
FPS - 506
Energy in Foot pounds - 2.98
Energy in Joules - .1257
Temperature at time of testing - 71 Degrees Fahrenheit
8.18 Grain Standard Lead Lead Pellets:
FPS - 447
Energy in Foot pounds - 3.63
Energy in Joules - .153
Temperature at time of testing - 71.5 Degrees Fahrenheit
In terms of accuracy, this rifle is made to shoot at much further out ranges than 30 feet but I was still able to get on what kind of a grouping is possible with the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle. I first shot 10 rounds at my paper target and then had a quick look. I was able to get a nice 1 inch grouping which I am sure I could improve upon with some more shooting time with the rifle. I was also not using a magnified scope, just a standard red dot. I then shot the remaining 20 rounds to finish off the 30 round belt fed magazine and for the most part the majority of the pellets all fell within the first 10 shot grouping and I did rip these shots off pretty quickly, about as fast as I could pull the trigger that is.
All in all the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle is a good performer, I am very happy with FPS form an 8 grain pellet consistently hitting 450 FPS, that's plenty fast enough to shoot all kinds of targets even out at further ranges. Accuracy was also consistent even under rushed shooting so I can imagine the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle would make a great trainer for tactical shooting situations. I thing Sig has a real winner here, great looks, excellent quality and good performance all at a reasonable cost. I just hope we get them here in Canada soon...
