In this Field Test Shooting Video for the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol I perform two main tests to find out what the velocity and accuracy capabilities are for it first using my Chronograph and shooting several rounds through it averaging out the fps. For the second test I shoot 7 rounds into a fresh paper target 30 feet down range to see how tight of a grouping I can get.
For my Velocity test Beeman claims the P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is capable of around 410 fps using standard lead pellets which I found to be a very close estimate as my results using 6.9 grain lead pellets achieved a 4 shot average of 404 fps so only 6 fps off the claim. There are lighter lead pellets out there and even lighter alloy pellets so higher velocities are possible using less grain pellets but a decent grain pellet hitting 400+ fps is not bad considering only one pump is required to get max velocity from the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol.
Moving on to the accuracy portion of the test I setup a fresh paper target 30 feet away and proceeded to put 7 rounds into it shooting from a seated and rested shooting position (sand bag up front, seated in the back). I was a bit surprised to only get a 1.5 inch grouping but it seemed like there where three separate sub groups that each overlapped within themselves? I think perhaps when I pumped the gun I may have been disrupting the rear sight a bit as it does have some play in it for adjustments so you want to be careful not to place your hands on the rear sight when cooking the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol. Out of the box the shot placement was fairly well centered with two of the rounds right dead center of the bulls-eye.
I kind of want to do a retest at some point maybe with a different pellet and also making sure not place my hands over the rear sight when cocking the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol as I feel this Target Pellet Pistol is capable of .5 inch groupings. The trigger is really nice and the rifled barrel is a decent length with easy to use sights so this Air Pistol should do a bit better than I was able to get shooting it on this day. Either way it is a really fun gun to shoot and with a bit of time figuring it out I am confident you can get better results than I did.
Trigger Pull: The Single action only trigger pull on the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is excellent, super light with just a little bit of take-up, the release is very predictable, one of the best target pistol triggers I have reviewed for sure. There is no adjustment but I do not feel it is nessisary at all.
Accuracy: Spoiler alert! Before posting the written version of this review I did make the Field Test Shooting Video so I can give you a little bit of a heads up on how well the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol in its Field Test Shooting Video. In terms of velocity it was really close to the 410 fps using lead pellets and for accuracy I was pleased with there results but feel the gun can do better than the result I got on this day, perhaps a different pellet choice, some more break in time or maybe just me shooting on a different day. That said I confident this gun is very capable of getting groupings under an inch in the right conditions, maybe even 1/2 an inch.
Build Quality: The build quality of the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is good considering it is a sub $100 target pistol with a great trigger, fully adjustable fiber optic sights and only one pump to get maximum velocity. The outer shell is polymer while the pump and valve body are aluminum with the barrel and main valve made out of steel. the trigger and latch are also metal.
Realism: The Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is not really a replica of a real steel gun in production per-say but the pistol grips are very Walther P series looking so if you are Walther owner or like the grips on the Walther P series guns then you will enjoy the hold of the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol.
Pros:
Reasonable price for an accurate full featured target pistol.
Safety automatically resets to the safe position when you pump/charge the pistol.
No need for CO2 so very inexpensive to shoot.
Virtually no recoil or vibration like you find in spring piston airguns.
Fiber optic front and back sight, also fully adjustable for windage and elevation.
Quality materials where you need them for expected long life and use.
Only requires one pump for full 410 fps power.
Works great for left and right handed shooters.
Good if you like Walther type pistol grips, same shape and feel as many P series pistols.
Excellent trigger feel and pull.
Cons:
Loading pellets is a bit awkward.
Have to pump it for each shot, no action shooting here.
Not rally a replica if that’s what you are after but generally most Spring Piston or Pneumatic Airguns are not replicas with a couple exceptions.
Comments: So the Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is not really a Replica or even an action shooter but it does have its place in an airgun collection. I love blasting pop cans just as much as the next person but sometimes I like to slow things down and see how accurate I can get with an Airgun and not be too concerned that the gun is interfering with the accuracy. This is one way to really improve your shooting skills and having to work for each shot makes it that much more rewarding. The Beeman P17 2004 Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol allows you to have a great time honing in your shooting skills for not a lot of cash up front and cost per shot is only whatever the pellets cost you.
In this Preview Unboxing Video I showcase three Pellet Guns from Beeman, one Single Stroke .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol and two Break Barrel .177 and .22 Caliber Pellet Rifles. I don’t go into a lot of details on each Airgun as I am leaving that information for my future Table Top and Field Test Videos. This video is mainly a heads up on these products with links to where you can buy them in our Online Replica Airgun Store.
In this Field Test Shooting Video I test out the Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol in the Indoor Replica Airguns Sea Can Shooting Range to find out what the real world velocity and accuracy is for it. I start off by putting 5 rounds through my Chronograph and average the fps, I then I setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range and put (max amount in the magazine) 8 Paintball rounds into it to see how close of a grouping I can get. If you want more details and specifications on the Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol then checkout my Table Top Video for that information.
Starting with the Chronograph velocity test Umarex says you can expect around 350 - 400 fps which seems rather high to me based on my other Field Tests with similar .43 caliber Paintball Pistols. Perhaps this is using actual Paintballs whereas I was using rubber balls for my testing to reduce the mess in the Sea Can. I was able to average 300 fps using a brand new CO2 in what I would consider to be about a room temperature conditions which means in warmer situations I am sure we can get even higher than the 300 fps I hit on this day.
For the next portion of the Indoor Field Test I loaded 8 rounds into the Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol and carefully placed them into a paper target 30 feet down range. I was using my standard seated position in the back with my hands resting on a sand bag up front which I have found to be fairly stable but there will still be some human factor which can effect overall accuracy. My results where about what I was expecting with a Paintball Pistol shooting Rubber Balls, generally they will spread out a bit at 30 feet and in this Field Test my 8 shot group spread out to about 8 inches or so. They did seem to be well centered on the target as a group and if I was shooting at a human sized torso at that distance I would have hit it every time.
The Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol is another nice addition to the Umarex / T4E lineup up .43 Caliber Replica Paintball Pistols and if you are a Glock owner and want a Paintball Pistol to train with, then the Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol is about as good as you can get, the only other option would be to go with an Umarex Glock Airsoft or BB Pistol but at least we now have a bunch of options depending on your specific needs!
In this Field Test Shooting Video I test out the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol in the Indoor Airgun Sea Can Shooting Range to find out what the real world velocity and accuracy is for it. I first put 5 rounds through my Chronograph and average out the fps and then I setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range and put 10 rounds into it to see how close of a grouping I can get. If you want more details and specifications on the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol then checkout my Table Top Video for that information.
Starting off with the Chronograph velocity test Sig says you can expect around 300 fps. I was able to average 286 fps using a brand new CO2 in what I would consider to be about a room temperature which means in warmer conditions I am sure we can get the claimed 300 fps made by Sig Sauer. I have been able to get higher velocities with other KWC 1911’s so perhaps with slightly lower fps for the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol we may get more shots per CO2?
Next I loaded 10 rounds into the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol and carefully placed them into a paper target 30 feet down range. I was using a seated position in the back with my hands resting on a sand bag up front which is fairly stable but there will still be some human factor which can effect overall accuracy a bit. My results where decent with about a 2 inch grouping that included 6 rounds right in the bullseye so out of the box the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol sights where good to go.
The Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is another nice addition to the KWC built 1911 lineup and I do like the Sig Sauer/KWC customization of this version, maybe one of my favorite KWC 1911’s out there? You can expect around 300 fps and nice 2 inch grouping at 30 feet which will make this a perfect action plinker for shooting pop cans or targets at close to medium ranges.
Type:Paintball Gun. Manufacturer:Umarex - T4E. Model:Glock 17 Gen5 Materials: Metal & Polymer. Weight: 726 grams (1.6 pounds). Barrel: Smooth bore. Power Source: 1x12 gram CO2. Action: Semi-Automatic with blowback action. Ammo Type: .43 Caliber Paintball or Rubber Ball. Ammo Capacity: 8 Rounds. FPS: 350-400.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol feels a lot like a double action trigger mainly because when you pull the trigger the inner barrel travels backwards into the magazine placing a paintball round in the barrel which seals the barrel with the magazine so less CO2 is wasted. This does make the trigger a little bit longer and heavier than a single action trigger. The internal hammer/striker is engaged from the blowback action reducing the friction on the trigger. In terms of it being similar to a Glock trigger pull it will be a bit heavier and longer but not bad overall.
Accuracy: So far I have not had the opportunity to test the Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol out so stay posted for my future Field Test Shooting Video where I will see what kind of velocity and accuracy we can expect from it. For now you can watch my Field Test Shooting Video for the Umarex T4E Walther PPQ M2 .43 Caliber Paintball Pistol as it is very similar in design and should for the most part perform about the same.
Build Quality: The build quality of the Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol is really very good, metal parts are where you would expect them, the slide, slide catch, barrel, magazine and most internal parts giving the Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol a solid 1.6 pound overall weight with the magazine in. The fit and finish is also very good with virtually no slide wiggle to be found.
Realism: The Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol is a licensed Glock Replica via Umarex which owns the licensing so you will find Glock licensing and branding throughout this Paintball Pistol. Just looking at the Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol you would find it hard to tell the difference between it and the real steel Glock 17 Gen5 but there are some notable differences as in the length of the slide travel which is about half of what you would expect from a real Glock. This is to account for the obvious internal differences to allow for CO2 and paintballs to be used. Overall the Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol would make a great training pistol if you are a Glock owner and want to use the closest gun to it.
Pros:
Really great weight and solid feeling gun.
Full Metal slide that locks back on the last shot.
All metal heavy full size drop out magazine adds some additional weight to the gun.
Good for Glock shooters looking for a training weapon.
Everything works pretty much like the real gun so again great as a training tool.
Easy to see white dot sights front and back.
Working trigger safety.
Fit and finish is excellent.
Magazine spring release really shoots the magazine out so be warned!
.43 caliber barrel opening, adds to realism.
Fully Glock licensed via Umarex.
Comes in a ice hard shell case.
Cons:
Trigger is a bit heavy, not as light as a real Glock, more of a double action trigger in function.
Magazine only holds 8 rounds, so you are going to need extra magazines for sure.
Blowback action is not full blowback, more like a typical half blowback BB gun.
Comments:
The Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol is another great addition to the Replica Paintball Pistol options out there and if you are a Glock owner looking for a training gun you can use for some additional trigger time outside of a gun range or want to perform realistic training exercises with live players then the Umarex T4E Glock 17 Gen5 CO2 .43 Cal. Paintball Pistol will fill this need. I am looking forward to testing it out when I make My Field Test Shooting Video as Umarex claims it to have significantly higher fps (350-400) then some of the other replica T4E Paintball guns I have reviewed so far. I guess we will see soon!
Type:BB Pistol. Manufacturer: Sig Sauer Model:1911 Emperor Scorpion. Materials: Mostly all metal build. Weight: 2.1 pounds (953 Grams). Barrel: 4.3 inches (109.2mm) - Non-rifled. Propulsion: 12 gram CO2. Action: Blowback single action only. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm Steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 16 round full size drop out metal magazine. Max FPS: 300+.
Trigger Pull: The Single action only trigger pull on the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is typical of what you will find on a KWC Blowback 1911, and that’s a good thing since it is short light and crisp similar to a real 1911 semi auto pistol.
Accuracy: I haven’t done my official field test shooting video so I can not comment exactly on how well this version of the KWC 1911 series will perform, but since I havre reviewed many similar versions of the KWC 1911, it should shoot similarly. That said I hope to expect a velocity around 300-330 fps and a 10 shot grouping between 1.5 and 2.5 inches.
Build Quality: The Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol like the other KWC 1911 Blowback BB Pistols has in a sense been perfected over time as the Original Tanfoglio Witness 1911 I Review came out over a decade ago and although it did have a few problems at first with the safety it all got worked out in the end and versions today are well made and reliable. As with all Airguns the metals used are not firearms grade quality so you do need to be a bit more careful with them but if you do you will get years of use out of them.
Realism: The Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is a lsenced replica of the real steel Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion 45 ACP and from looking at photos on line or the Sig Sauer 45 APC version it is virtually identical in a appearance other than the hammer which on the 45 ACP version seems to have a larger and more oval skeletonized opening. That’s pretty minor in the scheme of things. As this is a full blowback Air Pistol, the mechanical functions mimic the real steal version very well and as expected you can even fully field strip this BB Pistol.
Pros:
Based on the tried and true KWC 1911. Most parts should be mix and match.
Full blowback operation.
Excellent SAO 1911 trigger as expected.
Full metal construction, has great realistic weight to it.
Easy to see white dot sights front and back.
Tactical with ambidextrous safety controls.
Rail for adding on accessories like a laser or Tac light.
Nice reassessed barrel ads to the realism.
Love the two tone color scheme.
Full Sig Sauer licensing.
Looks virtually identical to the real steel Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion..
Cons:
Will go through CO2 fairly quickly.
Lower fps because of full blowback operation.
Sights are none adjustable.
Comments: Every time a new Blowback 1911 Airgun comes out I seem to say this one is my new favorite and well here we go again… Not only do I like 1911’s I also really like Sigs. I also seem to be a fan of town tone guns as it makes the parts on the gun really stand out in contrast to each other and I like that look. So when you put all of these things together it makes for a real winner in my books. With so many Blowback 1911 choices out there it is hard to make up ones mind, I would consider the Sig Sauer 1911 Emperor Scorpion Blowback CO2 BB Pistol to be in the top 3 for sure!
In this Update Preview Unboxing Video I take a look at 4 newer products that just came across my table and are in our Replica Airguns Online Stores. One is a CO2 Blowback BB Pistol, one is a CO2 .43 Caliber Paintball Pistol and two are GBB Airsoft Pistols, so a rather nice selection for us to take a look at here! I will be following up this Update Preview Unboxing Video with proper Table Top and Field Test Shooting Video to find out all the details and how well they perform.
In this Field Test Shooting Review I test out the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver in the Replica Airguns Sea Can Indoor Shooting Range to find out its velocity and accuracy using both 4.5mm Steel BB’s and .177 Caliber Lead Pellets. The version I am using is the BB version but my viewers have informed me that the BB version may in fact shoot just as well as the pellet version using pellets even without the rifled barrel due to how pellets are shaped not always requiring a rifled barrel to fly true. So let’s find out!
Starting with the velocity test, I shot 4 rounds of each ammo through my Chronograph using a fresh CO2 cartridge. Umarex claims the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver is able to get a maximum fps of 420 using standard 4.5mm steel BB’s and I was able to average 396 so every close. In warmer conditions 420 fps should be possible. Switching to the .177 caliber lead pellets the fps lowered a bit to an average of 323 fps as expected since the pellets are much heavier (around 7 grain versus 5 grain). I would expect the energy of the pellets to be a bit higher and also keep that energy out to further ranges so if you plan to shoot longer ranges perhaps go with the lead pellets over the BB’s as long as they are similar in accuracy which I test next.
For the accuracy portion of the test I again started off with the 4.5mm Steel BB’s and fired 6 rounds into my paper target setup 30 feet down range. I shot the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver using a seated shooting position with my hands resting up front on a sand bag to help with stability but it’s not perfect and there is always some human factor to consider. That said I was able to shoot a 1.5 inch 6 shot grouping with the BB’s and if I remove one outlier from the group that reduced it to closer to around an inch so not too bad for a BB shooter. I then switching up to the .177 caliber lead pellets and was a bit surprised that even without a rifled barrel the pellets seemed to perform better than the Steel BB’s getting a solid 1 inch grouping with no real outliers in it!
Unfortunately I do not have the actual rifled barrel version of the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 Revolver. Perhaps in the future I can compare the BB verso to the Pellet version using pellets to see if there is an improvement with the addition of the rifled barrel. I can say the BB version without the rifled version shoots pellets just fine at least up to 30 feet so feel free to shoot whatever ammo you want to with it and not be worried about compromising accuracy or velocity.
Type: BB Pistol. Manufacturer: Umarex. Model: M29. Materials: Metal & plastic. Weight: 2.5 pounds (1135 grams). Barrel Length: 8.375 inches (Smooth bore). Total Length: 12.13 inches. Propulsion: 12 gram CO2 cartridge. Action: Revolver, single and double action. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's (Also available in 6mm Airsoft). Ammunition Capacity: 6 rounds. FPS: 420fps claimed.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver is light in single action but not too light, there is virtually no take up and the release is predictable. In double action the trigger pull is heavier as the cylinder and hammer are both actuated manually by the trigger but even so the pull is not what I would call heavy for a double action revolver. The double action trigger pull is nice and even and will not tire out your finger too much firing all six rounds quickly.
Accuracy: At this point i have not made my Field Test Shooting portion of my review for the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver but I expect to get close to the 420 fps claimed velocity and I also expect to shoot around a 1 to 2 inch grouping based on my past experienced with similar Shell Loading BB Revolvers. I may even pull of a 1/5 inch group if I am on my game and so is the gun… We will have to all wait till next week when I record the shooting portion of my review for the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver.
Build Quality: Overall the all metal build quality of the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver is very good. The black chrome finish looks really nice but does show every finger print and any grease from your hands. The imitation wood grips look just like real wood and with only the exception of a small scratch or crack in the front plastic red sight, the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver was flawless.
Realism: The Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver is the same revolver used in one of the Dirty Hariy Movies and really looks exactly the same. As with all the shell loading BB/pellet/Airsoft Revolvers, they look and perform exactly like the real steel versions other than recoil of course. The only give away for the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver would be the diameter of the shells as Umarex decided to repurpose the 38/357 shells used in their other smaller caliber shell loading revolvers. It would have been nice to have a larger 44/45 caliber sized shell that they could use in both the Colt 45 Single Action Army Revolvers and this 44 Magnum version of the Smith and Wesson M29 Revolver. The barrel opening is closer to that of a 44 Magnum so they did get that part right.
Pros:
Classic iconic 44 magnum movie revolver.
Mostly all metal build.
Good overall weight, it’s big so expected to weigh a fair amount.
Lots of detail, well made, fit and finish is very good.
Fully S&W Licensed via Umarex.
Love the black chrome look but prone to finger prints.
Simulated wood grips look real enough.
Should have good overall power, accuracy and shots per CO2 (claimed around 80 per CO2).
Adjustable rear sight for windage/elevation with red dot front sight.
CO2 Allen key built into grip.
Recessed barrel true to 44 magnum opening size.
Nice Trigger pull in both single and double action.
Cons:
Shells are closer to 357 not 44 magnum in size.
Don’t like the white writing on the right side.
Black chrome finish shows lots of finger prints and grease.
Comments:
I really like that Umarex decided to give us this more classic Revolver to add to our collection of Airgun Revolvers! I was a big fan of the Dirty Harry Movies so this gun is for sure going to be part of my Airgun collection and even if you are not a fan, you should probably be a fan of the Smith and Wesson M29 which was considered to be one of the most powerful revolvers back in its day. Right now you can get it in 4.5mm Steel BB and 6mm Plastic Airsoft but hopefully there is a .177 caliber Pellet version on its way at some point.
My Table Top Video of the Umarex S&W M29 8 Inch Barrel Shell Loading CO2 BB Revolver:
I have a nice Airgun Pistol Update Unboxing video to checkout where I take a look at 5 Airguns four of which are Gas Blowback Airsoft Pistols and one is a CO2 BB Revolver. I don’t go into a lot of details here on each Airgun as this is mainly just a preview video to let everyone know we have these products in our Online Replica Airgun Stores and give a you a quick look at them. I will be following up with individual Table Top and Field Test Videos where I go into more details and also show you how each gun performs in the Replica Airguns Indoor Sea Can Shooting Range.
Yet another Field test Shooting review for the Crosman AR line of CO2 BB Blowback Full Auto Machine Guns. Today I test out the Pistol version or A4-P model. Basically this is the same BB Gun mechanically as all the other Crosman AR’s but with some cosmetic differences which can affect power and accuracy a bit. And that would be a slightly shorter barrel which can reduce velocity and the lack of a but stock for less stability.
As always I first test out the power or velocity for the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun, I always use brand new CO2 and make sure the temperature is not too cold in the Replica Airguns Sea Can. Crosman claims around 400+ fps for the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun and in my Chronograph test I was able to get a 5 shot average of 357 fps. The temperature was not super warm so I would expect on a hot summer day to get closer to 400 fps so pretty close.
I then proceeded to see what kind of accuracy I could get from the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun shooting 10 rounds in semi auto at a paper target setup 30 feet down range. I use a stabilized shooting position with the Airgun resting on a sand bag up front and me sitting on a stool in the back so the lack of a stock was not a huge drawback here. Regular stand up shooting and not being able to shoulder this Airgun as easily will mean a difference for sure. In semi auto mode with 10 rounds I was able to get around a 2 inch group but I would say this BB Machine gun should get closer to a 1 inch grouping as 8 out of the 10 rounds where all within 1 inch of each other so perhaps some human error on my part was at play here. Just for fun I unloaded the last 15 rounds in full auto on the unsuspecting target and as expected the grouping widened to around 4-5 inches.
Personally I prefer the Crosman AR Full Auto BB guns with a rear stock for that added extended shoulder support but the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun will fit much better into a back pack if you want to take it out in the woods for some shooting fun. Not everyone has a proper backyard or indoor range to use! the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is also one of the coolest looking in this lineup so that has to count for something ;) I wonder what Crosman has planned for their line of Full Auto BB Machine guns now that they have several AR versions and even the AK1. Maybe an MP5 or a SCAR?
Type: BB Pistol/Rifle. Manufacturer: Crosman. Model: A4-P. Materials: Metal & plastic. Weight: 5.3 pounds (2.4 kilograms). Length: 21.2 inches. Propulsion: 12 gram CO2 dual cartridges. Action: Blowback - Semi & full auto, single action only. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 25 rounds. FPS: 430fps. Rate of Fire: 1400 rounds per minute in full auto
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is single action only since the charging handle must be cocked first before you can shoot it. The trigger is short and fairly light as you would expect from an AR type trigger action. The real fun happens with the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun when you switch it over to full auto mode and with just one pull and hold of the trigger you empty the 25 round magazine in mere seconds. You may want to pickup the Crosman High Capacity magazine if you plan on doing a lot fo full auto shooting!
Accuracy: I have not made my Field Test Shooting Video just yet but you can checkout my Field Test Shooting Video for the Crosman R1 CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun which is a very similar product to the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun. I test out the Crosman R1 CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun using my Chronograph where I get an average of 385 fps and a nice 30 foot grouping of right around 1 inch in semi out and a decently tight full auto group of about 3-4 inches. We should expect about the same with the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun as long as not being able to shoulder it is a big factor?
Build Quality: The Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is well made all around just like the rest of the Crosman AR series of BB Machine Guns. Weighing in at 5.3 pounds without any add on accessories it feel solid and well built. There is a lot of metal going on inside and out of this rifle but keep in mind the top and bottom receiver are plastic with metal parts where they need to be like in the internals, pretty much all the working parts are metal, the magazine is full metal, the buffer tub is metal, charging handle, selector switch, magazine release, bolt release, trigger and of course the barrel is metal.
Realism: The Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is about as real as you are going to get in a CO2 Blowback AR/M4 styled Airgun. You can even take it apart and split the top and bottom receivers like the real steal version. The blowback action gives you some recoil but more importantly offers a true single action trigger and of course the full auto ability we all love. Almost all the working parts work like they would on a real AR / M4 other than the forward assist which is moulded into the receiver. Keep in mind this is the pistol version but like other AR styled “Pistols” the buffer tube area is still required to make the action work.
Pros:
Super realistic working M4/AR 4.5mm BB Rifle just like the other Crosman Rifles in this lineup.
Full blowback operation with both semi and full auto shooting, can feel the blowback operation rocking the gun.
Great weight and feel to it.
Almost everything works exactly like the real steel version. (Charging handle, dust cover, bolt release, magazine release, selector switch).
Duel CO2 metal drop out magazine that holds the 25 4.5mm steel BB’s as well as the dual CO2.
Compact maneuverable pistol version but may be able to add an AR butt stock if you want?
Included red dot sight and ability to add pop-up iron sights.
Lots of rails for mounting additional cool hardware.
Removable flash hider.
Works with Crosman High Capacity magazine.
Cons:
Receiver is plastic but well made and does not compromise feel or weight since there is lots of metal throughout this gun.
No iron sights included.
No but stock included.
Comments:
The Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is really pretty much the same as the Crosman DPMS SBR and Crosman MPW and Crosman R1 CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun with more or less Cosmetic changes, most notably being the lack of a butt stock and being more of the pistol version. Like the otters Crosman AR products, the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun has an AR compatible pistol grip, adn like the Crosman R1 CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun you also have the ability to change out the flash hider, you can even put a mock suppression on in it if you choose to. No matter which of the Crosman AR Full Auto CO2 BB Rifles you chooses to get they are mechanically every similar and share most of the same parts. If you want the most compact version than the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun is the way to go!
My Table Top Video of the Crosman A4-P CO2 Blowback BB Machine Gun:
In this Field Test Shooting Video I put some lead pellets through the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol to see what the real world velocity is compared to the claimed fps. I also put 7 rounds into a paper target setup 30 feet downrange to find out just how accurate and what kind of grouping I can get from this compact spring piston replica air pistol! If you have not already watched my Table Top Review for the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol then make sure to watch if for more specifications and details along with some nice close up video.
For my Chronograph test I placed 5 rounds through my Chrony using 8.18 grain Sig Sauer Match Precision Wadcutter Lead Pellets and was able to average 312 fps so just shy of the claimed 320 fps but there are lighter lead pellets out there and even lighter alloy pellets so higher fps can be achieved with this Air Pistol if you plan on using lighter pellets.
For the accuracy portion of my Field test Shooting Video for the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol, I ended up placing 7 rounds into a fresh paper target setup 30 feet down range. I was using my standard seated and rested shooting position which does offer a fairly stable shooting platform but not without some degree of human interaction. I was a little bit disappointed in the 2 inch grouping I got, I was expecting closer to a 1 inch group but I would have had to have been on my game and maybe today I was not. Pellet choice can also effect accuracy for sure and so maybe a different pellet would have performed better in this test. Most of the variable was up and down not left to right with only about an inch side to side.
All in all the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol did a good job hitting velocities as claimed and producing a decent grouping that I feel I could have improved upon once I got use to the lighter firmer trigger than I would like to see on a Ruger Mark IV Replica to match the real steal one more closely. Shot placement out of the box was close to the bullseye, it just needed to move up a bit and a tad to the right but once the sights are adjustable for windage and elevation this is easily fixed with a few turns of the sighting screws. If you are a Ruger 22LR owner than I would suggest you buy one of these Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistols and shoot for even less cost per shot and in more locations since this Air Pistol is super quiet and most makeshift backstops will work with it just fine.
Type: Pellet Pistol. Distributer:Umarex. Model:Ruger Mark IV. Materials: Metal and polymer build. Weight: 1.56 pounds (708 grams). Barrel: 5.3 inches (135mm). Total Length: 11 inches (279mm). Propulsion: Spring Piston. Action: SAO Break Barrel. Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 1 round. FPS: 320+.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol is not too bad, I feel it is a around 6-7 pounds or so without measuring. In comparison to a real steel 22LR semi auto SAO trigger pistol, the trigger is much heavier but most of these 22LR pistols of this nature have what I would consider to be near perfect triggers. Over time once you get use to the pressure and release point accuracy with this pistol it is for sure possible.
Accuracy: I have not had the chance to really test fire this pellet pistol but will be doing so next week when I make my Field Test Shooting Video for the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol. If it is anything like the Umarex Buck Mark URX which I imagine it will be, then I am expecting to get some good accuracy as the URX was able to get a nice under 1 inch shot grouping when I tested it a few years back. Velocity I am expecting to be up and over 300 fps even using lead pellets, I am hoping it will be in the mid 300’s
Build Quality: The Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistolis a low cost target plinker that also doubles as a licensed Replica for that coolness factor so you won’t get an all metal super top quality build here. That said metal and plastics are well used and for sure details in the fit and finish have been improved over the Buck Mark URX version where I found the barrel felt a bit sloppy and the trigger was plastic. The Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol has a much tighter barrel fit when closed and the trigger is now metal! Maybe Umarex watched my video back in the day and took some notes?
Realism: The Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol most resembles the Mark IV Hunter edition and is pretty much bang on in terms of being a replica other than the tell tail hinge just under the barrel required for a spring piston design, there really is no way to get around this so I’m not going to criticize this minor difference. The real steel version is almost 3 pounds and so the pellet shooting version is a bit under weight so it would have been to have had more metal perhaps in the barrel and lower frame. Again since the pellet shooting version is a springer you will not have any working bolts or slide catches or a built in magazine.
Pros:
It's a decent Ruger Mark IV Replica!
Feels well built overall.
Expect it to have really good accuracy like the Umarex Browning Buck Mark URX since they share similar mechanical design.
Barrel locks into place much better than the Umarex Browning Buck Mark URX did.
Fully adjustable rear sight with fiber optic front sight.
Auto locking safety, just don’t forget to unlock before each shot
Actual metal trigger in this version.
Nice and compact, not too heavy.
Full Ruger licensed via Umarex.
Fairly low price tag.
Cons:
No built in rail for a sight system like the Umarex Browning Buck Mark URX but this is tru for the Hunter version.
Trigger pull could be lighter to match the real steel version.
A bit more metal would have been nice to get the weigth up closer to the real steel version.
Comments: I remember the Umarex Buck Mark URX being a super fun pellet pistol to shoot even though it is only a single shot airgun. Sometimes just getting back to the basics and taking your time to really place your shots and see how accurate you can be is more fun than spraying BB’s and pellets rapid fire and hoping you hit something. The Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol is inexpensive to buy and inexpensive to shoot, no CO2, just a tin of your favorite pellets and you will get hours of fun for it while honing your shooting skills. And at the end of the day the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol is not a bad Replica Airgun if you are a collector of shot guns.
My Vimeo Table Top Review Videos for the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Break Barrel .177 Cal Pellet Pistol:
In this Preview Unboxing Vimeo Video I take a look at five very different products! A Spring Piston .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol, an Airsoft GBB Pistol, a Compact Crossbow, a full auto CO2 Blowback BB Pistol and a PPC .22 Caliber Pellet Rifle.
First up is the Umarex Ruger Mark IV Spring Piston Pellet Pistol which is a single shot replica pellet pistol that shoots .177 caliber pellets at up to 320 fps using a spring piston break barrel system. The Umarex Ruger Mark IV Spring Piston Pellet Pistol is a target plinker with fully adjustable fiber optic sights and should be a lot of fun to shoot!
Next I take a look at a Gas Blowback Airsoft Pistol from Action Army that closely resembles the Ruger Mark IV pistol with perhaps a more compact look. The Action Army AAP-01 GBB Airsoft Pistol is full blowback a full size drop out magazine and fiber optic sights. It also come with a threaded barrel and barrel extension for adding a longer barrel and much suppressor.
Next on my list of new items is the Bear X Desire XL Crossbow which is a 2.2 pound compact bolt shooting crossbow that sports a rail system with included adjustable iron sights that also allow for a red dot if you want to really customize it. The Bear X Desire XL Crossbow has a 60 pound draw and shoots arrows/bolts at up to 175 fps.
Another AR BB Rifle/Pistol from Crosman is the Crosman A4-P Full Auto CO2 BB Pistol which is essentially a pistol version of the AR Platform. If you like the Crosman DPMS SBR, R1, PDW then you will probably also like the Crosman AP-4. Like the others it uses dual CO2’s and shoots 4.5mm Steel BB;s in semi or full auto at 1400 rounds per minute until the 25 round magazine is empty.
Last included in this preview video is the Air Venturi Avenger Regulated PCP Pellet Rifle. I’m a bit uncertain about this one as I am pretty sure it is the non detuned PAL version that requires a firearms license here in Canada as it shoots at full velocity (.22 caliber pellet at 950 fps). If that’s the case then it will not be available in our Canada Replica Airguns Store but may be available in the US Replica Airguns Store. If it is the detuned version or a detuned version becomes available in Canada then I imagine we will at some point have it in the Canada replica Airguns Store. That said the Air Venturi Avenger Regulated PCP Pellet Rifle uses compressed air and shoots either .177. .22 or .25 caliber pellets using a latch system and rotary magazine.
Back in 2017 I made “Which Beretta Airgun is the Best” Video and showed off some 4.5mm Steel BB and .177 Caliber Pellet versions of my favorite Beretta 92 - M9 style Air Pistols. There have been some changes since then most noticeably the addition to Airsoft versions so I thought I would update this video with more current Beretta Airguns along with of course some of the same ones form my last video.
Because I show off 4.5mm Steel BB, .177 Caliber Pellet and 6mm Plastic Airsoft versions I decided to pick my favorites form each category. Watch my Vimeo Review Comparison Video so checkout these Air Pistols and see which ones are my favorites…
.177 Caliber Pellet Beretta 92 -M9 CO2 Air Pistols
In this Table Top Comparison Vimeo Video I take a look at the full line of Sig Sauer distributed Replica CO2 Blowback Airguns and pick out my favorite 4.5mm Steel BB and .177 Caliber Pellet shooters out of the bunch. You will have to watch the video to see what my two picks are!
In this Vimeo Comparison Review Video I take a look at a selection of Glock CO2 4.5mm Steel BB Pistols, four from Umarex and 1 from KWC. I go over some of the similarities and differences of each of them and ultimately decide which one is my personal favorite out of the bunch based on what I generally look for in an Airgun.
In this Field Test Shooting Video I put the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle through my standard Replica Airguns Indoor Field Test protocol by first testing out the velocity and placing 5 rounds through my Chronograph to see what the actual real world fps is using 14.3 grain lead pellets. I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet downrange and place 10 pellets into it to see what type of grouping I can get. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video for this Break Barrel Spring Piston Pellet Rifle then make sure to do so for more details, specifications and close up video.
Starting off with my real world velocity test for the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle, I went with 14.3 grain lead pellets which are I would say on the heavier side. Even so I managed to hit 478 fps which produced a nice 7.26 foot pounds of energy which by the way is almost 10 Joules! If you are wondering about Canadian legalities, as long as I do not go over 500 fps AND go over 4.2 foot pounds (both thresholds must be exceeded), then this Airgun is considered a non-regulated firearm and does not require a firearms license.
Moving on to the accuracy portion of my Indoor Field Test in the Replica Airguns Sea Can. As always I placed a brand new paper target 30 feet downrange and proceeded to shoot ten 14.3 grain lead pellets from a rested and seated shooting position to allow for best possible results with as little human error but I am imperfect so some human error is always present. I was using the open fiver optic sights on the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle rather than a scope even thought there is a dovetail rail with included scope stop. To be honest I was expecting a better grouping, something close to half an inch but on this day with this ammo choice I was closer to 1.5 to even 2 inches. I did see several pellets land in a tighter sub group but some came out of this group enlarging the grouping. I would like to try a different pellet choice to see if I can do better as I believe this rifle has way more potential.
In terms of power the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Pellet Rifle is about has high as you can go before it becomes a regulated firearm here in Canada so no complaints in that department. Again I was disappointed in the accuracy but I honestly believe a different pellet choice could fix that problem as I have seen often with other Pellet Rifles. Once the right pellet choice is made and granted a more consistent and tighter grouping is achieved, this Spring Piston Pellet Rifle could make a decent small pest control airgun!
