My final video for the Sig Sauer Spartan and Max Michel Blowback CO2 BB Pistols where I find out exactly how they perform. I test out the fps velocity with my Chrony Chronograph and then setup a paper target about 30 feet away and shoot 10 rounds from a rested and seated position with my hands on a sandbag for stability.
I decided to only shoot the Sig Sauer Spartan 1911 since the Max Michel is really the same gun mechanically but with slightly different cosmetics which should not change the performance in any way. I did use a brand new Sig Sauer CO2 along with Umarex zinc coated steel 4.5mm BB's for this test.
Starting with my fps velocity Chronograph testing for the Sig Sauer Spartan and Max Michel Blowback CO2 BB Pistols, it did take me 2 shots to get the chronograph to read but after that I got 5 good readings averaging about 370 fps with the fastest shot close to 400 fps. I know the first couple of shots that did not read where up in the higher ranges so my average result may have been a little higher if they had been included in the testing.
For my accuracy test I shot 10 rounds at a paper target setup about 30 feet away using my standard sea can seated and rested shooting position and I didn't feel like I pulled any shots. That said 2 of the 10 shots seemed to get away on me a little bit but the other 8 where well within a 2 inch grouping and the 2 outliers only extended the grouping by about an additional inch. In terms of placement on target the sig Sauer Spartan Blowback CO2 BB Pistol was well centered left to right but did shoot about 3 inches high.
I was a bit surprised by how heavy the blowback is on the Sig Sauer Spartan and Max Michel Blowback CO2 BB Pistols, it kind of rocked my table a little bit especially when the CO2 was new. I also really like the trigger and feel that theses Sig Sauer 1911 offerings really give the KWC 1911 blowback CO2 airguns a run for their money. If you can get over the plastic stick magazine then I think you would really like owning a Spartan or Max Michel Sig Sauer 1911 CO2 Blowback Airgun.
Type: Air Pistol. Manufacturer: Sig Sauer Model:Sig Sauer Spartan & Max Michel 1911 Materials: Mostly all metal build. Weight: 2.06 pounds (934 Grams). Barrel: 5 inches - Non-rifled. Propulsion: 12 gram CO2. Action: Blowback single action only. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm Steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 16 round stick magazine. Max FPS: 410.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Sig 1911 CO2 blowback pistols is excellent! juts like a real 1911 it is single action only and both Sig Sauer 1911's have very short and very light trigger pulls. To make the shooting experience even more realistic you will need to engage the working back strap safety in order to shot these guns, again just like a real 1911.
Accuracy: I have not done my official Field Test Shooting Video for the these Sig Sauer CO2 Blowback 1911's but I did do a shooting field test for the Daisy Winchester Model 11 which these guns are built in design from. The Daisy Model 11 on a rather cold day shot around 360 fps so I am expecting better results from the new updated Sig Sauer Max Michal and Spartan especially in warmer shooting conditions. during my previous Daisy Model 11 testing I was also able to get around a 2 inch 10 shot grouping from a 30 foot shooting position.
Build Quality: Both of the Sig Sauer Spartan and Max Michel Blowback CO2 airguns are built really well, they feel solid in the hand and all the mechanical parts feel tight, the finish is also nice and does not show any signs of wearing. You will find metal parts pretty much everywhere except the magazines, even the safety, magazine release and slide catch are metal, it's kind of too bad the magazine was also not metal?
Realism: Sig Sauer modeled the Spartan and Max Michel after their real steel version and overall they are very similar with the exception that neither of the real steel version have under barrel rails, you will also find adjustable sights on both of the real steel versions and of course proper full size magazines. Other than that both the Sig Sauer CO2 Blowback 1911/s look the part and have full Sig Sauer Licensing and branding,
Good overall replica of the real steel 1911 Sig Sauer pistols.
Really nice single action trigger.
Full Sig Sauer markings and licensing.
Cam lever system for easy CO2 loading.
Working grip safety.
Can expect reasonably decent blowback feel.
Higher fps than the KWC 1911’s range.
White dot sights front and back.
Rail for accessories.
Cons:
Plastic stick magazine.
Rail would not be on the original Sig Sauer pistols.
Sights are pretty basic and none adjustable.
Would have liked a more recessed barrel.
CO2 Grip comes off pretty easily.
Comments: I know that everyone seems to like airguns with full size drop out metal magazines and yes it does make the airgun look and feel more realistic but once the magazine is in the gun the experience for the most part is the same. Having a stick magazine in this case allows for a more efficient CO2 delivery which should increase power and shots per CO2, I know a lot of people complain about the low FPS of the KWC 1911's so if this is you then perhaps you then you may need to give up a full size mag for more power and shots per CO2? Other then the stick mag issue both the Sig Sauer Spartan and Max Michel are really nice CO2 Blowback Airguns and I am really hoping they perform well when I get to my field test shooting review shortly.
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer Spartan & Max Michel Blowback CO2 BB Pistols:
I was a bit surprised by the Umarex DX-17 Spring Powered BB Pistol, it actually shot a lot better than I was expecting it to perform. I did have to aim rather low since the Umarex DX-17 BB Pistol likes to shoot on the high side but if you are shooting at closer in ranges then you won't have to adjust your aim point so high.
Getting into my performance testing for the Umarex DX-17 Spring Powered BB Pistol, I placed 5 shots through my Chrony Chronograph and averaged 210 fps which again was very close to the Umarex claimed 200 fps, even a little bit higher! he DX-17 is a single shot repeater but because of the BB reservoir you can quickly reload follow up shots by simply point the Umarex DX-17 Spring Powered BB Pistol a little upward while pulling the slide back and pushing it forward to active the spring piston and load a BB at the same time.
As I mentioned the Umarex DX-17 Spring Powered BB Pistol shot on the high side, at 30 feet it's a good 8-9 inches high but I have a feeling that this is about as high as the BB's will rise since they are not going that fast and gravity will start bringing them back down. At about 10-15 feet out from a target the Umarex DX-17 Spring Powered BB Pistol seemed to shoot about 3-4 inches high so not nearly as bad and this can be adjusted pretty easy by simply aiming a bit under the target you are shooting at. In terms of a 10 shot grouping theUmarex DX-17 Spring Powered BB Pistol got about a 4 inch grouping which I have to say kind of surprised me as I was expecting a much larger spread.
So for about $20 you kind of get what you pay for but I really think with the Umarex DX-17 Spring Powered BB Pistol you perhaps get a little more! It has a really good trigger, seemed to be built pretty tuff, shot exactly right on the claimed fps mark and was even able to keep a reasonable grouping. And to keep costs down even more you never need to buy CO2 so that's another bonus.
I had a good time reviewing the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol, this airgun feels really good in the hand, has some nice crips blowback action, shoots pretty hard and shot right on target at 30 feet. The trigger is a bit long but it feels really smooth with an easy release and no real friction points to it.
Getting to the actual performance testing, I put 5 round through my Chrony Chronograph with the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol and was able to average 395 fps which by the way is exactly what Umarex says it will do! The temperature was not too hot or to cold and I was using a brand new CO2 so it was a fair test all the way around. It's good to see accurate fps specification coming from airguns companies.
Next I preformed my accuracy test shooting the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol at a paper target setup about 30 feet down range while using a seated and hand rested position for stability. I was impressed with how well the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol shot in terms of closeness to the bullseye, it really centered well on the paper. I put an 11 round string of 4.5mm steel BB's into the paper target and was able to get them all within about 2 inches. Not bad at all.
Overall I really like the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol, if you're an APX owner and want a BB shooting version for some back yard practice then you may want to pick one up. I would even suggest Glock owners or enthusiasts take a look at the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol since actual Glock airguns are hard to come by and the APX is pretty close in terms of size weight, shape and even looks.
Also make sure to checkout my Table Top Review for more closeup video and details on this CO2 Blowback air pistol.
I was originally planning on working out some of the magazine feeding issues with the Umarex Legends MP 40 Blowback CO2 BB Machine Gun as other reviewers had mentioned that the steel 4.5mm BB's can jam up a bit in the magazine. The only thing I did with my Umarex Legends MP 40 Blowback CO2 BB Machine Gun was to add a little bit of dry Jig-A-Loo lubricant to the magazine feeding track and make sure all my BB's where properly double stacked.. Other than that my Umarex Legends MP 40 Blowback CO2 BB Machine Gun is stock with no magazine spring mods.
I did find that my RWS Zinc coated Steel 4.5mm BB's had a tendency to bind a little in the top part of the magazine where the BB's go from a double stack to a single stack configuration. Now my RWS 4.5mm BB's are a bit older and I have found that older Zinc and Copper coated steel BB's will corrode a little which could cause some friction problems.
So for my Shooting Field Test I selected some brand new Umarex Zinc Coated Steel BB's and they did seem to work a little better for me as I did not get any magazine feeding issues during my testing of the Umarex Legends MP 40 Blowback CO2 BB Machine Gun. I did notice that when I did a magazine dump that the bolt cycle started to shorten up due to some cool down effect causing the bolt to lock, a quick 5 second break and she was good to go again to finish off the mag.
In terms of feet per second velocity Umarex claims around 450 fps for the Umarex Legends MP 40 Blowback CO2 BB Machine Gun, this may be possible with brand new CO2 on a warm day but I got closer to a 400 fps 5 shot average under normal testing conditions, this is perfectly fine for a blowback BB airgun.
When I performed the accuracy test from my standard 30 foot out position on paper targets I got a very tight 1 inch group shooting in semi auto. just a light bit high and to the left but very close to the center bullseye. When I opened up and went full auto the group did largen a little since the Umarex Legends MP 40 Blowback CO2 BB Machine Gun does rock a little back and forth with it's internal bolt blowback operation but the remaining 40 rounds did stay within the most part within a 2-3 inch grouping.
The Umarex Legends MP 40 Blowback CO2 BB Machine Gun is a really sweet air riffle with a legendary look, blowback operation, semi and full auto capability, decent fps, great accuracy and at the end of the day is simply a ton of fun to shoot!
The Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a really nice evolution to the already existing line of Sig Sauer ASP Pellet Pistols. The 30 round belt fed pellet magazine is what really sets it apart from the Sig ASP P250 and Sig ASP P226 which both share the traditional double sided 8 round rotary pellet magazines found in other CO2 pellet pistols like the Umarex PX4 and ASG CZ P-09 Duty.
The big question I had was how is the trigger going to feel and is a 30 round belt magazine going to be reliable? Will other aspects of the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol function and perform like its rotary magazine brothers?
During my Chronograph feet per second shooting test I compared all three blowback pellet pistols shooting five rounds from each of them using a brand new CO2 and Sig Sauer 5.25 grain Match Ballistic Alloy Pellets. It was a close race with the Sig ASP P250 averaging 413 fps, the Sig ASP P226 just under with a 409 fps average and the Sig ASP P320 coming in a very close third at 405 fps. Only about 8 fps separating all of them!
Moving on to the target portion of my testing. As per my standard Field Test Shooting Reviews I setup my paper targets about 30 feet from my rested shooting position and since the ASP P250 and P226 both have 8 rounds per side rotary magazines I decided to shoot an 8 round grouping with all three Sig ASP pellet pistols. It was really close and perhaps one could say most of the variability was because of the human factor. All three CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols shot about 2 inch groupings with perhaps one or two outliers, again most likely my fault :) I would say the Sig Sauer ASP P250 was perhaps the most accurate with the tightest of the three groups and also the most centered. The Sig Sauer ASP P226 and Sig Sauer ASP P320 where both a close second with both of them shooting just a tad left on target but pretty close to the center.
What about that Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol trigger and belt fed magazine? The trigger actually felt great, much lighter than I was expecting and I did not have one pellet feed error during my entire testing. At the end of the day all three Sig ASP pellet guns performed about the same, but I have to say having 30 rounds at your disposal without having to reload or rotate the stick mag really makes the Sig ASP P320 stand out and perhaps make it the winner in a very close contest.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a little different then that of the real steel APX. On the real steel APX there is actually a trigger safety and the actual gun uses a striker based system with a fairly short reset and take-up. On the replica Airgun version the trigger does not have a built in safety and the reset and take-up are much longer (full length). I have read that both the real steal and BB versions of the APX both have about 6 pounds trigger pulls but I personally felt like the Airgun version was heavier than that, perhaps because of the long pull. Overall the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol trigger is acceptable but not my favorite.
Accuracy: I have not shot the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol so far but based on similar blowback stick magazine BB air pistols from Umarex with around 400 fps performance, I know that it will have a medium blowback feel and should shoot pretty close to the claimed 395 fps. I also expect at least a 2 inch or smaller 10 shot grouping from 30 feet back.
Build Quality: Very good, the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol feels heavier than 1.5 pounds in the hand, perhaps because it is a more compact gun. The metal slide, metal stick mag and internal metal parts all help to balance off the polymer frame nicely. Fit and finish is also good.
Realism: The Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol overall is a really close replica to the real steel APX other than the added safety and missing trigger safety. The added safety does not stand out too much and does serve a purpose while the missing trigger safety could of at least been there for show if not an actual working safety. Other than that the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is very close to the Beretta APX with its full licensing, open ejection port, recessed barrel working slide catch release and blowback operation. Available at the:Replica Airguns Store
Pros:
Great weight and feel to it, build quality seems really good.
Really nice replica of the original Beretta APX in most ways.
Working slide catch and release.
Fully Beretta licensed.
Easy to see white dot sights front and back.
Recessed barrel and open ejection port for added realism.
Accessory rail for adding a laser or tactical light.
Stick magazine but plate gives the elusion of a full size magazine and covers the CO2 tab.
Warning instruction are nice and discreet!
Cons:
Trigger is a bit long and perhaps heavier than the real steel APX trigger. It also does not have the trigger safety.
Has a stick magazine rather than a full size magazine.
Sights are non-adjustable which is common with airguns like this one.
Comments:
It's always nice to get another airgun replica for fans of that particular real steel gun so they have a low cost shooting option they can use in a lot more locations for some safe trigger time. The Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a great addition for sure and it's also nice that it is somewhat Glock like in looks and operation for those Glock fans out there that are having a tuff time locating a Glock airgun replica :) Other than my trigger beef, I really like the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. I hope it performs as good as it looks when I do my field test shooting video in a bit.
My Vimeo Videos for the Umarex Beretta APX CO2 Blowback BB Pistol:
Type: Nerf Gun. Manufacturer: Nerf Hasbro Model:Rival Zeus MXV-1200. Materials: Mostly plastic build. Weight: About 3 pounds with batteries installed. Ages: 14+ (My son is 10 and he is more than OK with this gun!) Propulsion: Electric flywheel 6x C batteries. Action: Semi auto. Ammunition Type: Nerf High-impact round balls. Ammunition Capacity: 12 round tube magazine. Max FPS: 100.
Trigger Pull: The trigger on the Nerf Rival Zeus MXV-1200 is a little long and requires a firm trigger finger but it is not overly heavy. When you press the trigger it allows a Nerf High-impact round ball to advance into the motorized spinning flywheel area where the ball is accelerated and shot out of the inline barrel .
Accuracy: Keep in mind the Nerf Rival Zeus MXV-1200 is designed as a fun in home battle gun so long range accuracy is not really that important. At up to 30 feet or so you shoudl have no problem hitting a person sized target. The Nerf High-impact round balls do come out the the barrel with a fair amount of spin so some random hooking can happen, usually the spin is more of a backspin that helps keep the ammo targeting in a more linear trajectory.
Build Quality: The Nerf Rival Zeus MXV-1200 like most Nerf guns is built to take a fair bit of a beating since the target audience has mainly been kids and we know they are rarely careful with anything ;) The Nerf Rival Zeus MXV-1200 is mainly plastic but as I mentioned it is high quality and so far has held up well to usage. Fit is good with all interchangeable parts working well and the finish has stayed pretty much pristine!
Realism: Nerf guns are not made to be too realistic since they are meant to be toys and not look too closely like a real gun, hence the brightly colored plastic and more futuristic design. I do like the addition of Picatinny styled rails in several locations where one can add accessories like magazine clips, red dots or even a tactical light or laser sight.
Pros:
Not as extreme as a Paintball gun but a little more intense than a standard Nerf gun.
Good build quality overall.
Easy to quickly swap out a fresh 12 rode tube magazine.
Flip up sights
Picatinny raise for adding accessories.
Decent power and accuracy for a Nerf style gun.
Semit auto action for fast follow up shots.
Cons:
Will use up batteries pretty quickly.
Flywheel will slow down when shooting close together semi auto shots.
Loading magazines does take some getting use to.
Comments: The Nerf Rival Zeus MXV-1200 is a great option for pretty much anyone looking for a fun battle gun you can use indoors in your home with no worries about breaking windows or messing up your house. not to mention leaving west all over your body! The Nerf Rival Zeus MXV-1200 is going to be a bit more extreme than a standard Nerf gun for sure but way more toned down compares to a paintball gun or even an airsoft gun so if you want some good old rainy day indoor fun then checkout the Nerf Rival line of Nerf guns.
My Vimeo Table Top Full Review for the Nerf Rival Zeus MXV-1200:
I had a chance to take out my Swiss Arms SA 92 Stainless Version and Swiss Arms SA 1911 Tactical Rail System CO2 Blowback BB Pistols and see how they performed in the Sea Can Airgun Shooting range and they did pretty good, I have treated very similar KWC version of these guns in previous videos and for the most part the Swiss Arms Stainless Versions are just a little prettier cosmetically. I didn't test out the Swiss Arms SA 1911 Seventies Stainless Pistol since I expect it would have performed the same as the other 1911 in this Field Test Shooting Video.
So how did they do? First off I fired five rounds through my now almost perfectly working Chrony Chronograph and the SA 92 ended up shotgun a little faster with an average of right around 320 fps while the Swiss Arms SA 1911 Tactical shot an average of 302 fps. I was using brand new Sig Sauer CO2 and RWS Match Grade Precision Steel 4.5mm BB's for the entire review.
Moving on to the accuracy, I setup in my rested position which is about 30 feet back for the paper target. I was sitting and using a sand bag to rest the pistols on for stability. This gives me a very stable shooting position but there is still a little human factor involved since the guns are not locked in place. Both CO2 Blowback BB Pistols shot about a 2 inch 10 round grouping but the Swiss Arms SA 1911 had better shot placement pretty much hitting exactly where I aimed it, the Swiss Arms SA 92 Stainless on the other hand wanted to shot rather low, I had to place my aim at the top of the rings to get the SA 92 to hit near the bullseye. It did shoot really well left to right, unfortunately the Swiss Arms SA 92 Stainless does not seem to have a hop-up adjustment so you may have to adjust your aim point higher than normal with this one.
Both guns had great single action triggers with heavy blowback operation, I did find the Swiss Arms SA 1911 Stainless Tactical had a bit of a sticky slide when I first shot it but after a few shots it smoothed out. If you're looking for a KWA / Cybergun 1911 or Taurus PT 92 Blowback Airgun and want it ti have a little more curb appeal then make sure to checkout the Swiss Arms Stainless series of CO2 Blowback BB Pistols.
I know this video is going to excite many of you if you already like the basic KWC 1911 and PT92, also known as the Tanfoglio Witness, GSG 92 and many other almost exactly the same guns from Swiss Arms, Gletcher, Cybergun and even Umarex and Crosman.
There are tons of these KWC CO2 Blowback BB Pistols and Airsoft Pistols on the market in various versions with all kinds of different licensing on them and I have seen lots of custom modification photos from my viewers showing me how thy have striped and polished their KWC blowback Air Pistols and even added real wood grips.
That's why I think it's super cool that now you can get your already blinged out and polished Cybergun/KWC 1911 or PT92 and realy for not a lot more money at the end of the day! The real problems is availability since these stainless versions are in high demand.
So what are we looking at in this video? I have two Cybergun/KWC 1911's one is a basic 1911 A1 with a parkerized and stainless frame and slide, you also have a real wood look grip (Looks like wood but is not actually wood...) The basic Swiss Arms 1911 has been called the SA 1911 Seventies Stainless Pistol while the more tactical Swiss Arms SA 1911 is rightfully called the SA 1911 Tactical Rail System since it has a lot more tactical features like a rail, ambidextrous safety, white dot sights, and tactical trigger and hammer.
The Swiss Arms SA 92 Stainless which is essentially very similar to the GSG 92 or KWC PT92 again offers a parkerized and stainless frame and slide with the simulated wood grips.
Make sure to watch my update video for these three very attractive Swiss Arms CO2 Blowback BB Pistols from Cybergun/KWC and if you're interested in purchasing one you like then see if we have them in stock in our Canada Replica Airguns Store.
Type: Air Pistol. Manufacturer: Sig Sauer ASP Model:Sig Sauer ASP P320. Materials: Metal and plastic build. Weight: 1.81 pounds (821 Grams). Barrel: 4.75 inches - Rifled steel. Propulsion: 12 gram CO2. Action: Blowback single and double action. Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets and 4.5mm Steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 30 round belt fed stick magazine. Max FPS: 430.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a lot better than I thought it was going to be considering each time you pull the trigger it has to advance the 30 round belt fed magazine and cock the internal hammer since it is double action only. The blowback operation is really only for show and feel since it does not cock the hammer for a more single action type trigger pull. You can expect a fairly long trigger pull because it is double action only but overall it is not too heavy.
Accuracy: I have not done my official Field Test Shooting Video for the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol but hope to have it done shortly. Since I also haven't really done an official shooting test for the Sig Sauer P350 and P226, I figure I will test out all three of them at the same time.
Build Quality: The Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a bit heavier (closer to 2 pounds) than the P250 which hits the scale at only 1.5 pounds , this does make the Sig Sauer P320 feel a bit more solid in the hand. The Sig Sauer P320 has a metal slide and polymer frames similar to the real steel version which gives it authentic weight, balance and handling. Sig claims that their entire APS line of pellet guns is life tested for 15,000 shots so you know this gun is going to last and provide years of shooting fun. The fit and finish seem really good, so far no real paint or finish problems and all mechanically everything is operating as it should.
Realism: The Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a very close replica of the real steel Sig Sauer P320. The hammer, slide catch release and take down leaver are purely for show with the hammer being moulded into the slide and frame. One slight disappointment for me is when a gun does not have a cut out ejection port, that is also the case with the otters ASP Sig Sauer airguns like the P226 and P250 but it does not take away from the shooting fun in any way.
Good overall replica of the real steel Sig Sauer P320.
Designed by Sig Sauer and made in Japan, fully Sig Sauer licensed.
Should have nice heavy blowback operation like the ASP P250 and P226.
Has better weight than the P250, almost half a pound heavier.
White dot sights for easy target acquisition and accessory rail for add ons.
Super high capacity 30 round belt feed magazine.
Decent feel to the trigger not heavy or as sticky as I thought it might be having a 30 round belt fed magazine.
Cons:
Hammer is moulded into the slide and frame, does not function at all.
Sight are non adjustable.
Ejection port is not cut out and there is no working slide catch.
Comments: I was happy when Sig Sauer released their ASP Sig P250 and P226 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols with their 16 round double sided stick magazines like we have seen in several otters CO2 Pellet Pistols. But I love the introduction of the 30 round belt fed magazine. I am hoping the belt fed magazine performs while actually shooting pellets as good as it feels when dry firing it, I guess we will have to wait and see when I do my Field Test Shooting Video :) Overall the new Sig Sauer ASP P320 Pellet Pistol looks to be an upgrade of sure to the P250 in terms of improved weight and a higher capacity magazine.
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol:
Another 4.5mm Steel BB Field Test Shooting Review from the new Sea Can Airgun Shipping Container Shooting Range. Yes it's a Crosman but it's really made by KWC and is based on the KWC Beretta / Taurus M92. Depending on which version you get, it came in either semi auto only or semi auto and full auto selectable. The Crosman version does shoot right out of the box in both semi and full auto which is nice.
On to my performance results with the Crosman PFAM98 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. My feet per second velocity results using a brand new CO2 in a 22-23 celcius environment where right up around 333 fps from a 5 shot string. This is about what we are use to from KWC full blowback CO2 BB Pistols.
Moving on to accuracy, I shot 10 rounds at my paper target which is setup about 30 feet away. I was also using a rested seated shooting position with my hands and gun resting on a sandbag upfront. I did have to reset this test as one of my cameras did not cooperate the first time around and this may have effected the accuracy juts a bit as velocity spread can make the BB's spread out a bit especially high and low on target. I did get a nice 5 shot group that was in a tight under one inch group but some of the other 4.5mm Steel BB's did shot higher and lower leaving the tighter grouping.
When I put the Crosman PFAM98 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol in full auto mode and released the last 10 or so BB's they of course sprayed the target randomly. This was expected with the heavy blowback and fast shooting.
Another Airgun Shipping Container (Sea Can) Shooting video and for this indoor filed test I put the KWC - Cybergun M45A1 1911 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol through its paces.
What I am super happy about is that my Chrony Chronograph seems to be working really well as I tested a pellet, steel BB and Airsoft pistol out today and every single round through my Chrony got a reading :)
Now back to the Field Test Shooting Review at hand... I started off by placing 5 shots through my Chrony Chronograph using a brand new CO2 with .20 gram Airsoft BB's and got a really consistent reading for all 5 shots with an average of 357. The lowest shot was 353 and the fastest shot was 364 so all shots where really close in velocity. The container temperature was a near perfect shooting temperature of 23 degrees Celsius which was ideal for optimal CO2 velocity testing.
During my accuracy portion of this Field Shooting Test. I used my new seated in the back and sand bag rested up front shooting position which is about 30 feet back from my paper target. I did notice during my Chrony testing that the Cybergun KWC Colt 1911 Rail Gun M45 A1 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol liked to shoot a bit high, perhaps the hop-up needs a bit of twerking? So for my accuracy testing I shot at the bottom ring of the target, this helped me get more shots on the paper for sure but the Airsoft BB's still moved around a bit vertically. I was able to get about a 4-5 inch 10 shot grouping which is totally acceptable for a close range Airsoft sidearm and in an Airsoft battle I would think even shooting at about 50 feet or so I could easily hit a persons mid section consistently.
The Cybergun KWC Colt 1911 Rail Gun M45 A1 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol has a ton of blowback kick to it and a super nice single action trigger like all the KWC 1911's The modern Tactical coloration and trimmings makes this pistol a great choice as a present day side arm. It's real looker for sure with performance to match!
For my first official Field Test Shooting Video I test out the Crosman American Classic P1322 22 Caliber Pellet Pistol! Perhaps I should start calling these videos Sea Can or Shipping Container Shooting videos? Anyway, like always I put some rounds through the Chronograph to see what kind of real world fps I get from the Crosman American Classic P1322 22 Caliber Pellet Pistol. You will all be happy to know the Chrony is working really well in its new home. I played around with it a bit and found that using the light kit I bought gets me very consistent fps readings :)
Since the Crosman American Classic P1322 22 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a multi-pump airgun there is no real need to shoot more than 3 or so shots, after all there is a fair amount of pumping involved. After three consistent test shots the variation was only about 2 fps apart coming in at an average of 491 fps using Crosman flathead pellets that I would say are around 12-13 grain in weight. Just for fun a did a half pump only cracking the Crosman American Classic P1322 22 Caliber Pellet Pistol 5 times to see what a half power shot would result in and it did scrub off about 200 fps, still good enough for target plinking.
Next up I performed my accuracy test shooting from close to 30 feet back on a paper target using a rested position, (sitting in the back with my hands resting on a sand bag). Still a bit of human factor involved but stable enough to get a good idea of the accuracy for the Crosman American Classic P1322 22 Caliber Pellet Pistol. I had a bit of a camera technical problem so I ended up performing this test twice, the first time I got about a 3/4 inch 5 shot group. The second time I rushed it a bit and ended up widening out the group a little.
Overall the Crosman American Classic P1322 22 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a really great target and even small pest close range pistol that you can pickup at a very affordable price. I really wish we carried a few of the Crosman airguns, at least ones like this, perhaps down the road...
Well the Shipping Container Office and Airgun Shooting Range is finally all ready to use and so for this first ever airguns shooting video in it, I simply wanted to try out a couple of airguns and see how this new setup worked. I also wanted to play around with some camera position setup to see how it all looked and if there will be any additional lighting or placement considerations.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the ASG/KJWorks Beretta X9 Classic is very good in both single and double action. Double action is a bit longer and heavier than when shooting in single action since the hammer is being drawn back, but not overly heavy by any means. Single action shooting is short, light and crisp as you would expect when shooting a real steel Beretta 92 style pistol.
Accuracy: I have not done my actual Field Test Shooting video review for the ASG/KJWorks Beretta X9 Classic CO2 BB Pistol but I did get the chance to make a short preview video where I shot the Airsoft version of this M9 Beretta at some clay pigeons setup around 20 feet away. I was able to pop the center out of the clay pigeons no problem and found that even without any practice I was consistently hitting dead center on most shots. I am not sure exactly what the FPS will be btu it shoudl for sure get at least the claimed 312 fps if not a bit more.
Build Quality: As expected, the ASG X9 Classic Beretta M9 CO2 Blowback 4.5mm BB Pistol build quality is just like all the other KJWorks Airsoft guns I've tested so far. The ASG 4.5mm Steel BB shooting X9 Classic has more of a Matt finish but I kind of like it, not so many finger prints on the gun. All the tolerances between the moving parts like the slide and frame are very tight showing excellent workmanship and machining from KJWorks.
Realism: The ASG X9 Classic Beretta M9 CO2 Blowback 4.5mm BB Pistol is an excellent copy of the real steel popular Beretta M9, it is really hard to tell it apart from the real version and the ASG X9 Classic can even be field stripped in the same manor as a real Beretta M9 Semi Auto pistol with the similar functioning parts. The only missing aspect would be Beretta Licensing since the ASG version is unlicensed.
All metal design, fit and finish is very good as is with all KJWorks made guns.
Strong slide spring so should have nice heavy blowback action.
Realistic working safety and working slide catch and release.
Full size dropout metal magazine that holds steel BB's and CO2.
Can be field stripped like original Beretta M9.
KJWorks quality.
Cons:
Not licensed like the Umarex version.
None adjustable sights and white dot sights are kind of light.
Will eat up CO2 pretty quickly.
Comments:
There are very few 4.5mm Steel BB guns made by KJWorks and it seems that ASG as far as I know is the only distributer that has teamed up with KJWork to have them make some of their guns, I reviewed the ASG CZ 75 which is another ASG/KJWorks distributer 4.5mm CO2 Blowback Pistol. I don't even think you can get the 4.5mm Steel BB shooting version direct from KJWork? What I love most of all about the ASG X9 Classic Beretta M9 CO2 Blowback 4.5mm BB Pistol is that it is made by KJWorks since there are already a lot of Beretta M9's and Mod. 92's already out there but if I could only have one it would probably be the ASG X9 Classsic!
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the ASG X9 Classic Beretta M9 CO2 Blowback 4.5mm BB Pistol:
First off, I want to thank Crosman for providing these two guns for review! Now they're not exactly new guns by any means but for sure worth showing and doing some update reviews for.
Starting with the Crosman PFAM98 Taurus PT-92:
The Crosman PFAM98 Taurus PT-92 is essential a KWC made M92 also branded as the same gun as the Cybergun GSG 92 and the Swiss Arms P92.
So for all intense and purposes if you have watched any of my other revise on this line of KWC Beretta /Taurus BB pistols and even Airsoft versions then this BB gun should be really familiar to you.
History of the Taurus PT-92:
It is often referred to as a Berate 92 copy but in fact it is a Taurus PT-92 replica. The Taurus PT-92 is a product of Brazil, Taurus actually bought the entire Brazilian Beretta factory back in 1980 including drawings, tooling, machinery, and a very experienced work force to make the guns. Taurusimmediately sought to improve on the Beretta design, resulting in the popular and acclaimed Taurus PT-92.
Specifications for the Crosman PFAM98 Taurus PT-92:
Crosman use to make a similar version of the Crosman American Classic P1322 called the Back Packer which had a slightly longer barrel and came with a removable stock. You can kind of replicate this gun by adding the stock but it will have a shorter barrel. Keep in mind there are a ton of mods available for this series of Crosman airguns including barrels, bolts, trigger, Internals stocks, scope mounts…
PHOTOSpecifications for the Crosman American Classic P1322:
Metal and plastic construction.
Pneumatic pump.
.22 caliber lead pellets.
Single shot bolt action.
Rifled metal barrel.
Single action only.
Up to 460fps using lead pellets (10 pumps).
1.88 pounds (853 grams)
Keep posted for my full update reviews for these airguns...
I've already done Table Top Video Review for both the ASG CZ Scorpion VZ61 and the ASG B&T BT5 AEG 6mm Airsoft Guns so make sure to checkout both those videos.
What I hav not done so far is make a Filed Test Shooting video for either gun since this winter has been rather brutal here in BC Canada. Today I did manage to get outside and put some rounds through both the ASG CZ Scorpion VZ61 and the ASG B&T BT5 AEG 6mm Airsoft Guns so at least I can report back to everyone on how they performed for me. Sorry still no actual shooting video as my outside time was kind of limited due to it still being cold, we are even expecting some more snow tonight and over the next few days and it's March!
Getting back to my preliminary shooting testing, the ASG CZ Scorpion VZ61 only shot a slight bit higher then 250 but it was the more accurate of the two AEG Airsoft Guns getting close to a 1 inch 10 shot grouping using my standard 30 foot back semi rested shooting position. It did shoot a bit low but perhaps a hop-up adjustment should fix that problem.
Next up I tested out the ASG B&T BT5 MP5 PDW Replica and it did have a little more power hitting closer to 300 fps but it was not as accurate as the CZ shooting a bit high and to the left with most shots within about 1.5 inches, still pretty decent from 30 feet back.
Overall both AEG Airsoft Guns where fun to shoot and when I did let them lose to shoot in full auto mode they performed as expected laying down a stream of Airsoft BB's till the mags where empty :)
Materials: Steel, aluminum and plastic (polymer) construction.
Weight: 3.22 pounds (1460 grams).
Length: 15.7 inches (398mm).
Propulsion: AEG.
Action: Full auto only.
Ammunition Type: 6mm Airsoft BB's
Ammunition Capacity: 90 round magazines (Comes with 2).
FPS: 360+.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the RWA KG-9 AEG Airsoft Machine Pistol is what you would expect form an AEG pistol as it is basically an on/off switch. Since the RWA KG-9 AEG Airsoft Machine Pistol is full auto only it is not easy to shoot a single shot, it can be done with a very short trigger pull but even then you get the occasional multiple shot. The RWA KG-9 AEG Airsoft Machine Pistol like the real steel original version is full auto only and that's what makes it so fun!
Accuracy: I did get a chance to take the RWA KG-9 AEG Airsoft Machine Pistol outside and put some rounds through my Chronograph and down range at a paper target. I averaged just under 340 fps using .20 gram 6mm Airsoft BB's which is about perfect for this compact machine pistol. I also placed about 10 rounds down range 30 feet back using my standard semi rested shooting position while trying to shoot in semi auto and got a pretty decent 1.5 to 2 inch grouping that was a little high but well centered left to right. Elevation could be adjusted using the hop-up.
Build Quality: The RWA KG-9 AEG Airsoft Machine Pistol is really one of the best made Airsoft guns I have seen in a while, all the metal parst are going to be real steel or aluminum, not your standard zinc alloy found in most airguns these days. The full upper is stamped steel along with the 90 round magazines, the lower is plastic with a few aluminum parts here and there. The fit and finish is also excellent!
Realism: The RWA KG-9 AEG Airsoft Machine Pistol is a replica of the Swedish made Interdynamic KG9 Open Bolt SMP, not the ntratec Tec-9 which was the American version of the KG9. For the most part the RWA Airsoft version is exact with the exception of the barrel shroud being slightly longer to accommodate the 7.4v LiPo batteries.
Pros:
Lots of steel in this gun including full upper, barrel, pins and magazines.
Very high quality build with a solid weight and excellent fit and finish.
Fairly high rate full auto fire.
Comes with battery and two magazines.
Has almost perfect usable working rate of fire averaging around 340 fps with decent overall accuracy.
Working cocking handle.
Fully Licensed.
Cons:
No blowback but there is some recoil feel from the heavy spring action.
No semi auto mode, full auto only.
Sights are not adjustable, can only use hop-up to adjust elevation.
Limited on battery choices.
Comments:
The RWA KG-9 AEG Airsoft Machine Pistol is a really cool looking Airsoft gun, it is a bit larger than most hand guns but could still be used like one since it does not have a stock and can be used for similar shooting situations. The advantage is you have 90 rounds of full auto ammo at your disposal in a size format that is super compact and easy to manoeuvre. You also get some pretty decent power for longer range shooting and the accuracy out of the box at a variety of ranges is also really good. You could even use the RWA KG-9 AEG Airsoft Machine Pistol easily as a primary or even kick ass backup gun as it is super versatile.
Watch my Vimeo Table Top Review of the RWA KG-9 AEG Airsoft Machine Pistol:
Materials: Mostly clear plastic exterior with metal magazine and internal metal parts.
Weight: 1.2 pounds (544 grams).
Barrel: 4 inches, metal non-rifled with internal Hop-up.
Propulsion: CO2 x 1.
Action: Semi auto, double action only.
Ammunition Type: 6mm Plastic BB's.
Ammunition Capacity: 16 round full size drop out magazine.
FPS: 360 (.12 gram BB's).
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Umarex HK USP Clear CO2 Airsoft Gun is pretty light for a Double Action Only trigger and it will allow for some pretty quick rapid fire action shooting. The hammer is basically for show as the hammer is actually situated internally.
Accuracy: So far I have not had a chance to test the Umarex HK USP Clear CO2 Airsoft Gun out but I expect it to get around 300 fps using .20 gram plastic Airsoft BB's and with the internal hop-up it should also be fairly accurate. We will have to find out later on when I get outside and perform my Field Test Shooting Video Review.
Build Quality: My first impressions of a clear plastic gun are that it is going to be cheaply made but this is not the case with the Umarex HK USP Clear CO2 Airsoft Gun. For the most part it is exactly like the all black Steel BB version I already reviewed other than the clear plastic shell. Everything else about the Umarex HK USP Clear CO2 Airsoft Gun is the same and there is a lot internal metal parts including a metal barrel and breach and a full internal metal chassis. I would have like to have seen a metal trigger, hammer, safety and slide catch release.
Realism: The Umarex HK USP Clear CO2 Airsoft Gun is a fully licensed replica of the real H&K USP automatic pistol. Other than it being clear and having a red tip is an extremely close looking and accurate replica of the real steel version. It does not operate the same since it is non blowback and does not have a moving slide but visually it is a very good copy.
Relatively low cost gun, even less than the Steel BB version that is the same other than the clear plastic portions.
Nice full size drop out magazine that holds the CO2 and Airsoft BB’s.
Lots of internal metal parts gives decent weight to the gun even though much of the shell is plastic.
Rail for accessories.
CO2 screw is well hidden in magazine.
H&K licensing via Umarex.
Red dot sights are easy to see on most targets.
Should have justthe right amount of power for indoor CQB style Airsoft games.
Makes a good starter pistol for someone getting into the hobby that may not want a gun that looks too realistic.
Cons:
Being a clear gun obviously takes away from the realism but that is the point of this gun so as not be confused with a real gun..
Would have been nice if the magazine was metal like earlier versions of the HK USP.
Also would have been nice to see more metal parts like the hammer, magazine release, safety, and slide catch release.
Comments:
As I mentioned in my video of the Umarex P99 Clear Plastic Spring Airsoft Pistol, I can be a bit of an Airgun snob and I tend to stay away from the clear Airsoft guns since I like mostly metal guns with blowback operation. That said there is a place for these clear Airsoft pistols. The Umarex HK USP Clear CO2 Airsoft Gun other than being clear looks like a gun and shoots like a gun but will not be confused as being a real gun which can offer some more safety and less stress to all parties involved.
My Vimeo Video Review for the Umarex HK USP Clear CO2 Airsoft Gun:
