In this velocity and accuracy Field Test Shooting Video for the ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol, I test out the velocity in feet per second (FPS) using a brand new 12 gram CO2 loaded up with 4.5mm zinc coated Steel BB’s by averaging out 5 rounds shot through my Chronograph. ASG claims 394 fps on the box which sounds about right for a non blowback CO2 BB Pistols of this type. I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range in the Replica Airguns Sea Can, and shoot 10 BB’s at it using a semi rested shooting position to find out how the ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol performs and if it shoots near the bullseye out of the box, and if it can get a decently tight 10 shot grouping. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video Review for theASG Cobray Ingram M11, then make sure to watch it for details, specifications and some nice close up 4k video.
I start off my Field Test with velocity test of the ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol by shooting 5 rounds through the Chronograph and then averaged them out. The slowest of the 5 shots was 397 fps while the fastest shot topped out at 409 fps, this averaged 399 fps which was slightly higher than claimed 394! Temperature was maybe a bit under 20 degrees Celsius, closer to 18 or 19 which in Fahrenheit is in the low to mid 60 degrees. It is likely the ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol could reach higher fps velocities in warmer temperatures.
For the accuracy portion of the Filed Test I placed a fresh paper target 30 feet downrange, and using a semi rested shooting position (hands rested on a sandbag up front and sitting on a stool in the back) I placed 10 rounds into the target with the ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol. The ASG Cobray Ingram M11 did end up shooting fairly well centered on the target with two rounds even entering the bullseye. I found it shot just slightly to the left but not by much, in terms of elevation I did end up having to shoot about 3 inches lower on the target to hit near the center. The grouping for the 10 rounds was about 2.5 inches total so not too bad for having such an open peep sight to look through. I did extend the Ingram M11 NBB out in front of me rather than using the rear stock as I felt the rear sight was just too close and too open at that distance for me.
The ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol is a pretty basic non blowback BB Pistol but it does perform not too bad getting good fps of close to 400 and able to shoot fairly well centered at 30 feet out with a respectable 2.5 inch shot grouping. The trigger is a bit on the heavy and long side but this is generally true for most double action triggers. If you do plan on opening the rear stock and placing it on your shoulder you will find that rear sight to be very wide since it is so close up, this will allow for quick target acquisition but it also makes accuracy harder since the front sight is kind of swimming in that rather large peep opening. I prefer just holding the ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol out in front of me pistol style but you can try it for yourself and decide which way works best for you. If you are looking for a MAC 11 BB Pistol this may just be your only option for now but it is lower cost and still a lot of fun to shoot.
In this velocity and accuracy Field Test Shooting Video of the EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol, I test out what the velocity is in feet per second (FPS) using a brand new 12 gram CO2 loading up .20 gram plastic 6mm Airsoft BB’s by shooting 5 rounds through my trusted Chronograph. Salient Arms claims 375 to 390 fps which is on the higher side for many blowback Airsoft Pistols. I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range here in the Replcia Airguns Sea Can, and shoot 10 rounds at it using a semi rested shooting position to find out how the EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol shoots in terms of if it is anywhere near the bullseye out of the box and if it can get a decently tight grouping. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video Review for the EMG SAI BLU, then make sure to watch it for details, specifications and some nice close up 4k video.
First up in my Field Test of my velocity test of the EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol, I shot my standard 5 rounds through the Chronograph and then averaged them out. The slowest shot was 392 fps while the fastest shot hit 399 fps, this averaged 395 fps which was slightly higher than the claimed maximum of 390! Temperature was maybe a bit under 20 degrees Celsius, I would say closer to 18 or 19 which is in the low to mid 60’s or so degrees Fahrenheit, so it is possible for the EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol to hit even higher fps velocity in warmer temperatures.
I then set things up for the accuracy portion of this test and placed a fresh paper target 30 feet downrange, using a semi rested shooting position (hands rested on a sandbag up front and sitting on a stool in the back) I proceeded to place 10 rounds into the target with the EMG SAI BLU Airsoft Pistol. The EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol did end up shooting fairly well centered on the target with some rounds even entering the bullseye for me. I found it shot just slightly to the right but not by much, in terms of elevation it averaged right in the center. The grouping for the 10 rounds was about 3 inches total but I feel the .20 gram BB’s where a bit of a light choice for this Airsoft Pistol as the velocity is higher than some and a heavier Airsoft BB’s would have probably gotten me better results.
I really enjoyed shooting the EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol. Everything about it feels really good, the single action trigger is perfect, nice and short, light and crisp, the slide has such a snappy response to it with more blowback feel than I was expecting for a lighter slide. The overall feel and weight of the gun just feels good in the hand, not too heavy or light, the perfect weight to pack around as a dedicated sidearm for sure. It also has that Glock look and feel to it but with its own unique look so you won’t be just another dude with a Glock, not that that’s a bad thing but it does get a bit boring… The EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol is a premium Airsoft Pistol so you will pay a bit more but you will get a really nice gun in terms of looks, originality and performance.
Type: GBB Airsoft Pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by EMG. Model:SAI BLU. Materials: Metal and plastic. Weight: 1.3 pounds (570 grams). Total Length: 8.5 inches (216mm). Barrel: 4 inches (102mm) metal rifled. Propulsion: CO2 x1. Action: Semi auto Blowback, SAO trigger. Ammunition Type: 6mm Airsoft BB’s. Ammunition Capacity: 25. FPS: Claimed 375-390.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol like a Glock is single action only and it is very light and short, perhaps lighter and shorter than a Glock trigger in my opinion. The EMG SAI BLU does have a working trigger safety similar to a Glock and for storage there is also a serial number switch located just in front of the trigger guard where you would expect it to be.
Accuracy: I have not made my Field test Shooting Video or even tested out the EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol so far so I can not comment on the performance other than the claimed velocity of (375-390 fps). My plan is to have this info available next week when I make my Field test Shooting Video so stay posted of that video coming up shortly…
Build Quality: The EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol is very well made with quality materials throughout. You will find a machined aluminum slide with lightening cuts, aggressive slide serrations with SAI rollmarks, an injected moulded polymer frame and a full metal drop out magazine. The SAI brass color removable back-strap and magazine release are also made out of metal and the backstop can be swapped out for other sizes but you will have to acquire those on your own.
Realism: The EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol is custom designed and built by Salient Arms to fill the void between M&P ergonomics and Glock reliability. So it is not an exact replica but it does share its looks to a certain degree with a Glock, but I am sure Salient Arms did there best to not cross any lines in terms of infringement on other product designs. In terms of realistic operation the EMG SAI BLU functions and operates as you would expect a real steel pistol like it is designed around to operate.
Pros:
Nice light and short single action trigger.
Fit and finish is excellent, with qaulity build materials.
Fairly light weight pistol, easy side arm to pack around ready when you need it.
Fiber optic front sight for quick and easy shot placements.
Frame integrated 20mm accessory rail is ideal for mounting weapon lights and other accessories.
Threaded, fluted SAI style outer barrel (EMG SAI licensed proprietary convex thread cap included)
SAI brass color removable backstrap and magazine release for added weight to enhance balance while shooting.
Full size metal magazine holds the CO2 and 25 Airsoft BB’s which adds additional weight and balance.
Most mechanical parts work just like a steel version of this style of modern semi auto pistol.
Unique individualized serial number laser-engraved on every model.
Very snappy and responsive slide action.
Machined aluminum slide with lightening cuts, aggressive slide serrations with SAI rollmarks.
Cons:
Mine did not come with the EMG SAI licensed proprietary convex thread barrel cap .
Will need to purchase additional back straps separately if required.
Price is a bit on the higher side.
Comments:
The EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol is a really well designed and built pistol and may be an option for someone looking for a Glock but that maybe want’s to have a more unique pistol with many of the features and benefits a Glock offers. I’m not sure I like the brass/gold highlights but I would say it is not over the top. I am especially impressed with how smooth the slide cycle feels, how snappy the return is and the spring feels the perfect amount. I am expecting when I load a 12 gram CO2 and actually fire the EMG SAI BLU Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol, the blowback operation will be really good! You will pay a bit of a premium for this Airsoft Pistol but it does have premium build and materials in it so it will be worth the slightly higher cost.
Type: Non-blowback CO2 BB Pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by ASG. Model:Cobray Ingram M11 Materials: Mostly plastic, some metal. Weight: 1.2 pounds (544 grams). Total Length: 10.25/18 inches (260/457mm). Barrel: 5.25 inches (133mm) metal rifled. Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Semi auto non-blowback, DOA trigger. Ammunition Type: .4.5mm steel BB’s. Ammunition Capacity: 39 round drop out plastic magazine. FPS: Claimed 394.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol is exactly what you would expect from a NBB CO2 BB double action trigger. It is on the longer and slightly heavier side as your finger is required to do all the work, rather than the blowback action at least cocking the hammer back for you. Getting through the 39 rounds quickly will be a chore for sure, but by the time you reload it again with another 39 rounds your finger should be rested enough!
Accuracy: My dedicated field test shooting video is planned for next week so for now I have no idea what to expect in terms of velocity and accuracy from the ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol other than it should shoot around 400 fps as claimed by ASG. The rather open rear peep sight is on the larger side since the sight sits so close to your face so as long as I can find the center point I should be able to get a decent result from the ASG Cobray Ingram M11. We will find out soon enough so stay posted for that shooting video review.
Build Quality: The ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol is not a poorly made Airgun by no means, just don’t expect a lot of metal as the only metal parts are going to be the stock, the inner barrel, and some other internal metal parts. Everything else is plastic but it works just fine. I do have to say the metal wire stock is really well built and is the best part of this Airgun for sure. It is as good or similar in quality to what you would find on the real steel version.
Realism: The ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol is a 1 to 1 replica of a standard MAC11 and it looks just like one at a glance and perhaps even a bit closer up but as soon as you hold it you will feel how light it is at around 1.2 pounds. There are also very few working parts as many are moulded into the upper and lower receiver. The trigger, magazine release, stock button and safety switch however are all functional which is kind of necessary. The reassessed barrel, adjustable wire rear stock and full size drop out magazine do help add to the realism.
Pros:
Double action trigger is a bit long but not super heavy, it will make you work for action styled shooting.
Fit and finish looks good.
In terms of realism it does look legitimate even though it is very light weight to hold.
High capacity magazine for lots of shots between reloading.
Metal stock is the best part of this pistol, very well made.
Peep sight in back is ideal for quick targets acquisition.
Can kind of field trip but be careful of the safety, must remove first.
Recessed barrel for added realism.
Full size magazine holds the CO2 and BB’s.
Cobray licensing looks good on this gun, no ugly white warning print.
Cons:
Some more metal and weight would have been nice.
Peep sight in the back seems too large as it is so close to your face.
Not a lot of working parts other than the trigger, safety, stock adjustment and magazine release.
Comments:
In terms of 4.5mm BB Airguns out there, I am pretty sure there are no other MAC11 type on the market? So at least ASG has brought us an option to add something like this to for our Airgun collection. I just wish that like the Mini UZI, we had a blowback option with more metal as this is really the more desired choice we are looking for, at least of many of us. The ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol isn’t going to be all that expensive and offers some fun plinking with decent looks, hopefully a company steps up to the table and makes us a blowback metal version down the road, but for now we at least have the ASG Cobray Ingram M11 NBB CO2 BB Machine Pistol.
In this shooting velocity and accuracy Field Test Video of the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol, I “try to” test out what the velocity in fps using a standard 12 gram CO2 along with 7 grain .177 caliber lead pellets shooting 5 rounds through my Chronograph. The claimed fps for this pellet shooter is 332, not sure if that is with lead or alloy pellets? I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range here in the Sea Can and shoot 6 rounds into it using a semi rested shooting position to find out if the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol can get all 6 rounds out the barrel and if it can place them any where near the bullseye out of the box. And if it can also get a decently tight grouping. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video Review for the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol, then make sure to check that one out for details, specifications and some nice close up 4k video. It is a pretty sweet looking Airgun!
First, my velocity test of the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol, I “try to shoot” 6 rounds through my Chronograph and then averaged them all out as I do in all my Field Test Shooting Videos. I did not have a lot of success with my first choice of pellets and pretty much got a jam right away. I then switched up the pellets and I was able to get 5 out of the 6 rounds in the one side of the rotary mag through my Chronograph and here where the results… The slowest shot was 206 fps while the fastest shot hit 251 fps, this averaged 231 fps which was kind of far off of the claimed 332 fps. Maybe the claim is for light weight alloy pellets? I don’t know? To be honest I was just glad to get a result as I was not having a lot of luck with the rotary magazine working for me all that well.
I then tried my luck again and placed a fresh paper target 30 feet downrange and using a semi rested shooting position (hands rested on a sandbag up front and sitting on a stool in the back). Luck was on my side as a succeeded to place all 6 rounds into the target with no jams this time! The Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol did alright in terms of accuracy placing 4 shots all within about an inch and a half well centered just a bit high of the bullseye. Two shots did drop down as they seemed to come out underpowered compared to the other 4 shots which does explain why they dropped a bit on the target. This did stretch out the grouping to closer to around 4.5 inches.
Rotary pellet magazines are for sure never as consistent as vertical stick type magazines shooting round BB’s. There is always going to be some jamming that happens especially if the pellets you pick do not fit perfectly. Once I found a pellet the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol liked a bit more, I did have better success with only the occasional jam. Power was not great as you saw with my velocity test. Accuracy was for sure much better and if the velocity was more consistent then I am positive 1.5 to 2 inch groupings would be possible! The trigger is OK but loaded up with pellets does tend to drag a bit more than when empty and make you work a bit harder with that trigger finger, but it does get the job done. The best part about the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol would be its looks and how it feels in the hand for sure, the stainless finishes gives it a quality look so if looks are more important than performance and you want a sweet looking stainless 1911, this may be your pick.
In this shooting velocity and accuracy Field Test Video of the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol, I test out what the velocity is in fps using propane gas along with .20 gram plastic 6mm Airsoft BB’s by placing 6 rounds through my Chronograph. Umarex claims 365 fps just above the 360 Canada minimum import regulation. I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range in the Sea Can and shoot 10 rounds into it using a semi rested shooting position to find out if the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol shoots near the bullseye on the target out of the box and if it can get a decently tight grouping. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video Review for the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol, then make sure to do so for details, specifications and some nice close in 4k video.
First, my velocity test of the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol, I shot 6 rounds through my Chronograph and then averaged them all out. The slowest shot was 354 fps while the fastest shot hit 378 fps, this averaged 362 fps which was really close to the Umarex claim of 365 fps. Temperature was maybe a bit under 20 degrees Celsius, I would say closer to 17 or 18 which is in the low 60’s or so degrees Fahrenheit, so I would expect a bit higher fps velocity in warmer temperatures, maybe as high as 380 or so…
As promised, I then placed a fresh paper target 30 feet downrange and using a semi rested shooting position (hands rested on a sandbag up front and sitting on a stool in the back - works for me). I proceeded to place 10 rounds into the target with the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol, and was a bit surprised at what I saw when I went up to the target. I would say the grouping was around 6 inches which is not what I expected from this quality of Match Grade Airsoft Pistol. it should of easily broke 2 inches? The bulk of the shots did shoot within 2 inches and very close to the bullseye I might add, but 2 shots went high and 2 shots went low making the grouping a lot larger unfortunately. Perhaps a heavier Airsoft BB is what this Airgun needs as I think it has a lot more potential than it showed me here today.
You never know what to expect when making a Filed Test Shooting Video. Some low cost basic shooters end up performing really well and surprising me. In this case I was a bit underwhelmed by the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol, at least in terms of the accuracy portion of the test. In terms of velocity it was bang on, and I love the way it shoots and feels, the blowback is steady and crips and the trigger feels really good. Again I am hoping the accuracy results were more about ammo choice as I can see it really wanted to place Airsoft BB’s near the bullseye and in that under 2 inch grouping, but it struggled perhaps with my light weight ammo choice. All around I think the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol is a great option, you just need to work with it a little bit and find out what it likes to shoot.
Type: GBB Airsoft Pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by Umarex - Manufactured by KWA. Model:HK USP Match Materials: Metal and plastic. Weight: 2.45 pounds (1120 grams). Total Length: 9.5 inches (242mm). Barrel: 4.5 inches (114mm) metal rifled. Propulsion: Green Gas. Action: Semi auto Blowback, SA DA trigger. Ammunition Type: 6mm Airsoft BB’s. Ammunition Capacity: 28. FPS: Claimed 365.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol is nice in both single and double action. Most of the time you will be shooting in single action as once the blowback action kicks in the slide cycle will pre-cock the hammer allowing for short light single action trigger pulls. You can de-cock this pistol dropping the hammer, at that point your next shot will be in double action until the blowback action again pre-cocks the hammer for you. Both single and double action on this pistol feel good with single action being shorter and lighter while the double action is still very usable.
Accuracy: I have yet to shoot the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol or perform my standard Field Test shooting Video so I can not comment on the performance other than what Umarex claimes in terms of velocity (365 fps). I expect the Umarex KWA HK USP Match to perform well as it is a competition style pistol with fully adjustable sights. So even if it shoots bit off out of the box I can dial it in closer to the bulls eye with a simple turn of the sight adjustment screws. This Airsoft gun has a really nice weight and feel in the hand and is really well balance so that should help out with accuracy but we will find out soon enough…
Build Quality: The Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol is a quality product all around with Metal and Polymer construction. You will find a machined aluminum alloy slide, CNC machined aluminum compensator weight and an injection molded polymer frame. Fit and finishes is very good which is what I find with most KWA built products. Internally this product KWA utilizes the NS2 gas blowback system that provides excellent gas efficiency and performance.
Realism: The Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol is as close to the real steel version as you can get with an Airsoft Pistol replicating looks and function very closely. It has full blowback action with all the mechanical parts operating as they would on the real steel version. Metal parts and plastic parts are found in all the same places and you can fully field strip the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol just like the .45 caliber version.
Pros:
Single and double action trigger with a nice light short single action trigger.
Fit and finish is excellent, top notch build materials.
This pistol is pretty heavy at almost 2.5 pounds!
Extremely close replica of the real steel HK USP Match in both looks and function.
Decently priced for a quality Airgun.
Fully adjustable match grade sights.
I like the look of the compensator extension and flared magwell.
Full ambidextrous controls.
Full size metal magazine holds the Gas and 28 Airsoft BB’s which adds additional weight and balance.
Most Mechanical parts work just like the real steel version and can be field stripped with a bit of work.
No need to field strip to adjust the hop-up as a tool is included for that.
Heavy slide spring with fast blowback action, great for action shooting.
Licensing all over this gun true to the real steel version.
Cons:
Has a painted on orange tip.
Not super easy to filed strip
May be a bit heavy and bulky for some people.
Comments:
The Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol is on the larger size and may not be for everyone but if you don’t mind a beefier Airsoft Pistol, you will get a lot from this one. It almost has a bit of that RoboCop look to it which I don’t mind. You also have a lot of control over this Airsoft Pistol with full ambidextrous controls, fully adjustable sights and both a single and double action trigger. And then there is the compensator, it does look cool but I am not really sure how much it is going to improve shooting this gun if any. For the price you do get a lot with the Umarex KWA HK USP Match GBB Airsoft Pistol.
Type: Non-blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by Cybergun. Model:Thompson 1911 Materials: Metal and plastic. Weight: 2.18 pounds (990 grams). Total Length: 8.66 inches (220mm). Barrel: 4.75 inches (121mm) metal rifled. Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Semi auto non-blowback, DOA trigger. Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 12 (6x2) round drop out metal magazine. FPS: Claimed 332.
Trigger Pull: The Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol is typical of a double action trigger in that it is a longer trigger pull that requires more effort to pull than a single action trigger would. The Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol trigger is good for a DOA trigger as it is not overly heavy and does allow for somewhat quick follow up shooting. The trigger pull not only cocks the hammer, it also rotates the rotary magazine on either end of the stick magazine so there is a lot going on here but it still is not overly heavy which is nice.
Accuracy: I have yet to shoot the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol or performed my standard Field Test shooting Video so I can not comment at this time on the performance other than what is claimed in terms of fps (332). In terms of accuracy I am hoping it will perform well being not only a pellet pistol but since it also has a rifled steel barrel this may help with accuracy. We will find out shortly when I make my Field Test Shooting video of this CO2 Pellet Pistol.
Build Quality: The Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol has a mix of metal and plastic parts with the slide and magazine being the main metal parts and the frame along with most of the controls like the trigger, slide catch release, hammer and safety all being made out of plastic. Of course many of the internal parts like the barrel will be metal or even steel. Overall the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol feels solid and has a good weight up and over 2 pounds. Fit and finishes are also good but I would have liked to have seen the trigger, hammer, slide catch and safety being made out metal, as it just would have felt better to the touch. Yes I can feel the difference!
Realism: The Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol looks pretty much bang on to a Colt 1911, really the big tell would be the trigger as it is much larger than a standard 1911 to accommodate the double action trigger pull length but other than that, this CO2 Pellet Replica Pistol does a good job of replicating the real steel version. It is even similar in weight and feel. The recessed barrel, full size drop out magazine, and I think the detail of the stainless finish on the slide all add to the realism.
Pros:
Double action trigger is not that bad, fairly light and smooth.
Fit and finish looks good, just wish the trigger, hammer and safety where also metal.
This pistol has a good weight at a little over 2 pounds!
Decently looking replica of the real steel colt 45 1911.
Has a rifled metal barrel which may help with accuracy..
White dot sights front and back helps with quick targets acquisition.
I like the stainless steel slide, it gives the gun a quality look.
Recessed barrel for added realism.
Full size metal magazine holds the CO2 and Pellets and adds additional weight.
Thompson Licensing looks good on this gun, not too much.
Cons:
Trigger, hammer and safety should have been made out of metal.
Hammer is non functioning.
No blowback and no sight adjustments.
Comments:
The best feature of the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol is the stainless steel slide finish which really gives it a quality look and makes it even more believable. What takes away from the believability are the plastic parts and the lack of blowback operation or even a working slide. That said the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol offers a rifled steel barrel combined with shooting pellets which should make this a more accurate option over perhaps a Blowback CO2 BB 1911. I will have to test this out shortly to know for sure but if accuracy is more important than realism, than the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol may be your better option.
In this real world shooting Field Test Video of the ASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol, I find out what the velocity is using a brand new standard 12 gram CO2 shooting 5.1 grain 4.5mm Steel BB’s through my Chronograph. I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range and shoot 10 rounds into it using seated semi rested shooting position to find out if the ASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol Field Test Review anywhere near the bullseye out of the box and if it can get a tight grouping. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video Review for the ASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol, then make sure to do so for details, specifications and some nice close up video.
For my velocity test of the ASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol, I a lot of rounds through the chronograph as the fps velocity kept creeping up, but I did average out the last 5 shots to get my official average. The slowest fps was 263 with the fastest shot hitting 289 fps, this averaged 283 fps when using the last 5 shots which was almost bang on to what ASG claims of 285. Temperature was maybe just under 20 degrees Celsius which is around 65 or so degrees Fahrenheit, so good to get middle of the road performance here. In warmer temperature you can expect a bit higher velocities.
I then placed my paper target 30 feet downrange and using a semi rested shooting position (hands rested on a sandbag up front and sitting on a stool in the back). I placed 10 rounds into the target and was able to get right around a 2 inch shot grouping with just one flyer that went a bit higher than the rest, probably was me! I was aiming just under the bullseye and the ASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol shot about 3 inches low and just a hair to the left but the good news is the sights are fully adjustable so you can zero it in perfectly for your shooting style and range of shooting.
I really like this ASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol, it is a bit of a handful at almost 3 pounds but it feels well balanced and the blowback is nice and strong. It has a really great single action trigger that is short and light and predictable. You can also shoot in double action if you drop the hammer for some reason, just make sure you have already reached the slide to load a BB in the breach. The fps is not super high with this Full Blowback CO2 BB Pistol, but it did stay very consistent during my testing not dropping nearly as fast or as much as other similar CO2 BB Pistols. The price is a little bit higher on this version but you get a lot of gun for the money with quality materials throughout.
In this performance Field Test Video of the ASG CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol, I find out what the velocity is using a brand new standard 12 gram CO2 shooting a bunch of 4.5mm Steel BB’s through my Chronograph. ASG claims around 312 by the way. I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range and shoot 10 rounds into it using a semi rested shooting position to find out if the ASG CZ SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol shoots well centered on the target out of the box and if it can shoot a decent grouping. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video Review for the ASG CZ SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol, then make sure to do so for details, specifications and some nice close up video.
First up for my velocity test of the ASG CZ SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol, I shot I think it was 7 or 8 rounds through my Chronograph and then averaged them all out. The slowest fps was 305 with the fastest shot hitting 317 fps, this averaged 311 fps which was almost bang on to what ASG Claims of this CO2 BB Blowback Pistol. Temperature was maybe just under 20 degrees Celsius which is around 65 or so degrees Fahrenheit, so good to get middle of the road performance here. In warmer temperature you will get a bit higher velocities.
I then placed my paper target 30 feet downrange and using a semi rested shooting position (hands rested on a sandbag up front and sitting on a stool in the back - not because I’m lazy). I shot 10 rounds into the target and was able to get just a bit over 2 inch shot grouping. I was aiming just under the bullseye and the ASG CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol did shoot a bit low and and to the left, so you will have to aim a bit high and to the right if you shoot like I do since this Replica BB Revolver does not have sight adjustments on it.
The ASG CZ SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol did pretty good in my testing hitting an averaged out 311 fps which is only 1 fps off of the claimed. The ASG CZ SP-01 Shadow also shot a respectable 10 shot grouping and like many BB and Airsoft guns, it shot a bit low on the target. There is internal adjustable hop-up in this CO2 BB Pistol, so perhaps if you crank that up a bit, it may shoot slightly higher but keep in mind Steel BB’s are lot more dense than Airsoft BB’s so I would not expect a radical change in elevation from hop-up alone. I do like the heavy blowback and smooth and light single action trigger that can also shoot in double action if need be. For a quality product like this the price is good so if you like CZ products then check this one out.
Type:Blowback BB Pistol. Manufacturer: Made and Distributed by ASG. Model:CZ Shadow 2. Materials: Mostly all Metal. Weight: 2.7 pounds (1230 grams). Barrel: 4.5 inches (114mm) metal non-rifled. Total Length: 85 inch (215mm). Propulsion: 1 x CO2. Action: Semi auto blowback, single & double action trigger. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 17 round drop out full size metal magazine. FPS: Claimed 285.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the ASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is both single and double action, by either pulling the slide or hammer back you engage the single action trigger which is nice and short and light with a medium take-up. You will need to pull the slide back to load a BB into the breach area for your first shot or you will simply be shooting CO2 on that first shot. If you drop the hammer down once a BB is in the breach, you can shoot in double action which is much heavier but it is fairly smooth without any noticeable sticking points.
Accuracy: I have not shot the ASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol or made my Field Test Shooting Video so far, that will happen hopefully next week. So right now I can not comment on the true velocity or accuracy of this BB Pistol. It is very well made so I expect it to perform like most Full Blowback CO2 BB pistols which means it should shoot around a 1-2 inch 10 shot grouping at 30 feet away. And I expect it to achieve a velocity close to the manufacturers claimed fps, so just under 300 fps as claimed by ASG. We will find out for sure next in a weeks time!
Build Quality: TheASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is distributed by ASG but I am not 100% sure who exactly makes it for them. I feel it is either going to be KJWorks or KWA. In either case both companies make very high quality Airsoft and Airguns and that is present with the ASG Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol. Fit and finish are excellent and the entire gun is virtually all metal with an anodized slide and zinc grips. It weighs in at a very hefty 2.7 pounds and has a very solid feel to it.
Realism: The ASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is a 1 to 1 copy of the real steel CZ Shadow 2 IPSC Pistol and side by side it would be very hard to tell one form the other. It features full blowback operation and can by fully field stripped. All the mechanical parts work like the real steel version adding to the realism of shooting this CO2 Competition built Blowback BB Pistol. Again it is full metal which not only helps it look the part, but also feel the part. It is a very realistic replica and to make it even more believable, ASG has provide the CZ licensing to add all the correct markings to this product.
Pros:
Single and double action trigger with a nice light short single action trigger.
Fit and finish is excellent, very little slide wiggle, all metal build.
This pistol is heavy at 2.7 pounds!
Extremely close replica of the real steel CZ Shadow 2 in both looks and function.
Rear sight is fully adjustable and sits very flush with the slide.
Fiber optic front sight helps with quick targets acquisition.
CNC machined Aluminum slide and full metal build including the machined zinc pistol grip sides.
Recessed barrel for added realism.
Full size 17 round metal magazine holds the CO2 and BB’s and adds additional weight.
Side swappable Ambidextrous magazine release.
Extended trigger guard makes shooting with gloves easier.
Claimed to be highly accurate, we will find out during my Field Test.
Most Mechanical parts work just like a steel version and can be easily field stripped to access hop-up.
Heavy slide spring with fast blowback action, great for action shooting.
Licensing all over this gun true to the real steel version.
Cons:
Velocity of claimed 285 seems low.
Price will be a bit higher than some similar guns like this but the quality of the ASG CZ Shadow 2 is very high.
May be a bit heavy for some people.
Comments:
The ASG CZ Shadow 2 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is a quality product all around not only being just full metal but also icormdrating Anodized Aluminum in the slide but also making the grips out of CNC Zinc. Fit and finish is excellent and the overall IPSC look is very appealing. It is a bit heavy coming in at 2.7 pounds but this will keep it very stable when performing competition styled shooting. I am really looking forward to seeing how this one performs as I have high expectations so I hope later on next week when I make my Field Test Shooting video it delivers as promised.
Type:Blowback BB Pistol. Manufacturer: Made and Distributed by ASG. Model:CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow. Materials: Mostly all Metal. Weight: 2.37 pounds (1076 grams). Barrel: 4.5 inches (114mm) metal non-rifled. Total Length: 8.26 inch (210mm). Propulsion: 1 x Co2. Action: Semi auto blowback, single & double action trigger. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 17 round drop out full size metal magazine. FPS: Claimed 312.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the ASG CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is both single and double action, by either pulling the slide or hammer back you engage the single action trigger which is nice and short and light with a medium take-up. You will need to pull the slide back to load a BB into the breach area for your first shot or you will simply be shooting CO2 on that first shot. If you drop the hammer down once a BB is in the breach, you can shoot in double action which is much heavier but it is fairly smooth without any noticeable sticking points.
Accuracy: I have not shot the ASG CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol or made my Field Test Shooting Video for it, that will happen next week. So for now I can not comment on the true velocity or accuracy of this product. It is very well made so I expect it to perform like most Full Blowback CO2 BB pistols which means it should shoot around a 1-2 inch 10 shot grouping at 30 feet away, and I expect it to achieve a velocity close to the manufacturers claimed fps, so around 300 fps or just above. We will find out for sure next week!
Build Quality: TheASG CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is distributed by ASG but I am not 100% sure who makes it for them. I feel it could be either KJWorks or KWA. In either case both companies make very high quality Airguns and that is present with the ASG CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol. Fit and finish are excellent and the entire gun is virtually all metal. It weighs in at almost 2.5 ponds and has a very solid feel to it.
Realism: The ASG CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol is a 1 to 1 copy of the real steel CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow and side by side it would be very hard to tell them apart. It features full blowback operation and can by fully field stripped. All the mechanical parts work like the real steel version adding to the realism of shooting this CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. Again it is almost all metal which not only helps it look the part, but also feel the part. It is a very realistic replica and to make it even more believable, ASG has provide the CZ licensing to add all the correct markings to this product.
Pros:
Single and double action trigger with a nice light short single action trigger.
Fit and finish is excellent, very little slide wiggle, all metal build.
This pistol is pretty heavy at just under 2.5 pounds!
Extremely close replica of the real steel CZ SP-01 Shadow in both looks and function.
Well priced for a quality Airgun.
Fiber optic front sight helps with quick target acquisition.
I like the stainless barrel, it won’t be as prone to scratches and wear marks.
Deep recessed barrel for added realism.
Full size 17 round metal magazine holds the CO2 and BB’s and adds additional weight.
Rail for adding accessories like a laser or tac light.
Most mechanical parts work just like the steel version and can be easily field stripped to access the hop-up.
Heavy slide spring with fast blowback action, great for action shooting.
Licensing all over this gun, true to the real steel version.
Cons:
Rear sight is not adjustable.
FPS is perhaps a bit low at 312?
May be a bit heavy for some people.
Comments:
I am pretty sure that the ASG CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol started out life as a 6mm Airsoft Pistol, and then this version was simply converted over to shoot 4.5mm Steel BB’s by more than likely swapping out the barrel, perhaps changing the nozzle and modifying the magazine to allow for 4.5mm BB’s over the 6mm Airsoft BB’s. And that is OK with me as I really like how Full Blowback Airsoft Pistols recreate that realistic shooting experience. The downside to all of this is a bit of a perforce hit since Full Blowback Airsoft Pistols use up a lot of CO2 to create that full heavy blowback experience. You also lose some power along the way. I am fine with that but some people may not be. Overall I really like the ASG CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow Blowback CO2 BB Pistol. It is high quality and looks awesome. Now I just need to find out how it shoots :)
I have reviewed many of the Shell Loading Revolvers in the past and I always enjoy shooting them anytime one shows up on my desk for review. So here I go again but this time with a product from Crosman but with the Remington License on it. As always, I test out the power using my Chronograph by shooting several rounds through it and averaging them out. I also setup a paper target 30 feet down range and generally put an entire cylinder or mag into it or 10 rounds depending on the capacity of the magazine or cylinder. In this Field test Shooting Video I did all of that but times two as the Crosman Remington 1875 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver shoots both 4.5mm Steel BB’s and .177 Caliber lead pellets. If you are more interested in details and specifications along with more close up video of this item then watch my Crosman Remington 1875 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver Table Top Review.
Starting with the velocity, or power for the Crosman Remington 1875 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver, I measured using my Chronograph using a brand new 12 gram CO2 and I shot three rounds of BB’s and four rounds of pellets and averaged them out. Here are my BB Chronograph results in FPS: 423, 407, 398 (409 average). Here are my pellet Chronograph results in FPS: 300, 274, 270, 271 (279 average). I was using standard lead pellets which should be right around 7 grain while my 4.5mm Steel BB’s were around 5 grain. Temperature was average room temperature I would say.
For my Accuracy test I shot a full 6 round magazine of each ammo type or at least I tried to, but for some reason I was missing a round in my pellet test so I only shot five rounds for that one. For BB’s all shots were fairly well centered on the target but they did spread out to about 2.5 inches. Pellets dropped a bit perhaps as they were moving a lot slower? My pellet result was about the same at around 2.5 inches of spread between all 5 shots. The spread with the pellets was wider compared to the spread of the BB’s which was more vertical.
I have gotten more accurate results with other shell loading revolvers build in a similar fashion as the Crosman Remington 1875 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver so I was expecting a little bit better results, but it could have been me that was the problem on this day? Still a close to two inch shot group at 30 feet away will generally nock pop cams over or other similar sized targets and this CO2 Revolver is really only meant for plinking fun and not so much match grade shooting. The Crosman Remington 1875 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver is a real looker at the end of the day and if your want a single action only classic Western Revolver than look no further.
In this performance Field Test Shooting Video of the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver, I find out what the velocity in fps is using a brand new standard 12 gram CO2 cartridge shooting 4.5mm Steel BB’s through my Chronograph in the Replica Airguns Sea Can Indoor Shooting Range. I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range and shoot 10 rounds into it shooting in Single Action to see how tight of a grouping I can get out of the box. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video Review for the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver then make sure to check that one out for details and specifications along with some more close up video.
First up for my velocity or fps test of the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver, I shot 6 4.5mm Steel BB’s through my Chronograph. The slowest velocity was 327 fps and the fastest shot hit an fps of 351, this result averaged 345 fps which was a bit under the claimed “up to” 400 fps from Barra, still a usable velocity for shooting pop cans and the likes at 30-40 feet down range. The temperature in the Sea Can was I would say around 20 degrees Celsius which is 68-69 degrees Fahrenheit, so a decent temperature to get middle of the road performance from a CO2 Airgun like the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver. In warmer temperature you can expect closer to the claimed 400 fps.
I then placed my fresh paper target on the pellet trap 30 feet downrange and using my standard semi rested shooting position (hands rested on a sandbag up front and sitting on a stool in the back), I shot 10 rounds into the target and was able to get a respective 2.5 inch shot grouping shooting in Single Action of course. I did notice the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver liked to shoot a bit high, almost 4-5 inches higher than I was aiming but it did center left to right fairly well.
The Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver is a lower cost and almost all plastic Single Action Revolver with only a few internal meat parts in the build, that said it does feel well built and fairly solid in the hand. It may produce that claimed 400 fps velocity by Barra in warmer conditions which is more than enough for plinking and pop can shooting which is really what the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver is designed to do. I found it to be accurate enough for it’s intended purpose but it did push a little high on the target out of the box, at least my demo unit would require me to aim a little under my intended target by about 4-5 inches at 30 feet away for near bullseye shots as there is no way to adjust the sights manually. The Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver will provide lots of shots per CO2 and has a much higher capacity magazine holding 18 rounds as compared to other shell loading revolvers that only hold 6 rounds. If you’re OK with a bit less realism, then the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver may even outperform the more expensive and more realistic Single Action Army Revolvers on the market at a less expensive price point.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver is a single action only trigger, so you will need to cock the hammer back before each shot which does take away almost all of the trigger pull length and weight, making it short and light and easy to shoot. Perfect for slowed down accurate shot placement, but less effective as an action shooter.
Accuracy: I have not tested out the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver but it is a lot like the Crosman Fortify SA CO2 BB Revolver so I am thinking it will perform at lot like that CO2 BB Revolver, if you want to get an idea on how the Barra 1858 might perform, you can watch my Crosman Fortify Filed Test Shooting Video to get a heads up before I make my official Filed Test Shooting Video for the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver.
Build Quality: When it comes to the build for the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver, there is not a lot to really get super excited about. It is basically a mostly all plastic gun with some metal parts internally like the barrel, trigger, hammer and CO2 area. The Barra 1858 has that lower cost Airgun, two halves, screwed together build which generally looks better on the side without the screws showing. As it is mostly plastic it is very light in the hand at only just about a pound or so. Overall there are not a lot of moving parts so it should be reliable enough just because there is not much to break or go wrong. All the mechanical components do what they need to do and feel solid enough.
Realism: The Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver at a glance looks a lot like a Remington 1858 Single Action Revolver, it has the same shape and size but the weight is way less being mostly plastic. The lack of actual bullet holes in the cylinder looking at it from the front of the revolver also takes away from the realism. I guess I am really used to the new generation revolvers with working cylinders and real loadable shells but these guns are more expensive and hold less ammo as they are genuine to the 6 shooter capacity. The barrel is however recessed which is nice.
Pros:
Inexpensive revolver as compared to other shell loading styled revolvers out there.
A decent looking replica of a Remington 1858 Revolver.
Single action only trigger is short and light and well suited to careful shot placement shooting.
400 claimed fps is about perfect for plinking at ranges up 30-40 feet.
18 round magazine has a nice high capacity and easy to load when empty.
Should get lots of shots per CO2 as there will be very little CO2 leakage with a non shell loading design.
Safety is well well hidden just in front of the trigger so easy to get to.
Has a recessed barrel for added realism.
CO2 Allen key is built into grip so always have it on hand and will not lose it.
White markings as an warnings are not super obvious, could be a little lighter.
Comes with two starter CO2’s and some 4.5mm Steel BB’s.
Cons:
Almost all plastic builds makes it a bit light in the hand.
No fake shell holes in the front of the cylinder, could have added this for a more genuine look.
Sights are non adjustable but fairly normal for an inexpensive plinker.
Comments: The Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver is a completely new concept in design over what we have become use to in todays Single Action Legend Revolvers with their shell loading design, the Crosman Fortify as I have mentioned is the only other new classic cowboy Revolver on the market like it so perhaps there will be more in the future. My shooting experience with the Crosman Fortify CO2 BB Revolver was about what I expected, it shot pretty close to the claimed fps and got around a 2 inch 10 round grouping shooting at a paper target 30 feet down range. So we will see if the Barra Cowboy Series 1858 CO2 BB Revolver performs about the same which was respectable. For a low cost BB Revolver you kind of get what you pay for here, which is not a bad deal at the end of the day considering the lower cost to get you up and shooting.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Crosman Remington 1875 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver is very good. it its single action only as is expected from a revolver of this era. There is almost zero take up and creep and the weight is light but not super light so as to not accidentally release the trigger before you intend to. I would not want to change this trigger at all.
Accuracy: I have not made my Field Test Shooting Video yet for the Crosman Remington 1875 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver but will be making it shortly. Until then I can only go on past experiences with similar shell loading single action only revolvers like the Single Action Army Revolvers form Umarex and they generally perform well in both steel BB and pellet versions. Generally they do not have rifled barrels but that does not seem to affect the pellets all that much at least at the ranges I am shooting at which will be around 30 feet away. Stay posted for my upcoming Field Test Shooting Video for this Revolver.
Build Quality: Build quality for the Crosman Remington 1875 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver is excellent. It is hard to find any plastic on this product as it seems to be entirely made out of metal other than the grips. it weighs in at 2.3 pounds so it feel very solid in the hadn't and the nickel chrome finish looks really good with the bone colored grips. Just expect to do a lot of wiping down if you do not like finger prints on your guns. All the mechanical parts feel tight and work well.
Realism: The new generation shell loading revolvers all look and festoon super realistic with their removable shells and very realistic working parts. It actually feels like you are working with the real deal as you need to load up shells manually and insert them in the gun one by one just like a 6 shooter back in the day. One little detail mistake all of these shell loading six shooters seem to make, is that the shells are most closely similar in size to a .357 or .38 caliber where as real steel versions would be chambered more in a .44 or .45 caliber shell so the shells are not true to scale but this is a very minor point.
Pros:
Almost all metal build with a solid 2.3 pound weight.
A decent looking replica of a Remington 1875 Revolver.
Single action only trigger is short and light and well suited to careful shot placement shooting.
450 claimed fps is about perfect for plinking at ranges up 30-40 feet.
Have the choice of shooting either 4.5mm Steel BB’s or .177 caliber pellets.
Comes with 6 shells for 4.5mm BB’s and 6 shells for .177 caliber pellets.
Safety is well well hidden just in front of the trigger so easy to get to.
Has a recessed barrel for added realism.
CO2 Allen key is built into grip so always have it on hadn’t and will not lose it.
Chrome finishes with bone style grips looks really good.
White markings don’t stand out too much on the chrome finish.
Cons:
Not a big fan of the clamshell packaging as I feel it cheapens the product and initial unboxing joy.
Barrel is not rifled for the pellets.
Sight are non adjustable but fairly normal for an inexpensive plinker.
Comments: The Crosman Remington 1875 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver is a well rounded shell loading revolver and for me checks a lot of the boxes and would be a good choice if you are looking for a single action only revolver of this era. It gives you the option of shooting either 4.5mm Steel BB’s or .177 caliber Pellets and you even get 12 shells (6 of each). The nickel finish with the bone grips looks really good and I like the slightly longer barrel which does help add to the beefy 2.3 pound feel in the hand of this CO2 Revolver. I wish it came in nicer looking packaging but this won’t matter once you take it out and start shooting.
Another Unboxing Update Video taking a look at two Rifles and two Revolvers. A shell loading CO2 dual ammo 1875 single action Remington branded Revolver from Crosman, an 1858 single action CO2 BB Revolver from Barra, another Barra product kind of like a Red Ryder BB Riffle but in dual ammo version with a much different loading system called the Barra 1866, and lastly a Cybergun CO2 Airsoft MP40 with a very different magazine setup than I have seen before.
I’ve got some new Airguns to show everyone today and all of them are Pistols of some sort or another. I show you three 4.5mm BB Pistols from ASG, a Cybergun 1911 NBB BB Pistol, an Airsoft Full Blowback Pistol from EMG and lastly from Umarex, an HK Full Blowback Airsoft Pistol. This is not a full review by any means, the video is mainly to let you know what is coming up in terms of Table Top and Field Test Videos and that we do have these products at least listed in our Replica Airgun Store.
Type:Blowback BB Pistol. Manufacturer: Made and Distributed by KWC. Model:K17 (Black Barrel Version). Materials: Metal & Polymer. Weight: 1.68 pounds (760 grams). Barrel: 4.3 inches metal non-rifled. Propulsion: 1 x Co2. Action: Semi auto blowback, single action only trigger. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 17 round drop out full size metal magazine. FPS: Claimed 329.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the KWC K17 Black Barrel CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is short with only a little bit of take up, the release is light and crips. The blowback action resets the internal Hammer / Striker with each shot for that true single action trigger and it’s also nice that the trigger does have a working trigger safety. You will need to rack the slide for the first shot but then the blowback action takes over for the rest of the shots.
Accuracy: I have already made a Field Test Shooting Video for the Gold Barrel version of this same KWC K17 pistol so you can check out that video here to see how the Black Barrel Version will essentially shoot. If you want to know right here and now the KWC K17 shot right around 325 fps and got a 4 inch grouping at 30 feet away shooting 10 rounds into a paper target. Maybe the Black Barrel Version will shoot a bit differently for me? We will find out soon enough…
Build Quality: TheKWC K17 Black Barrel CO2 Blowback BB Pistol feels really good, I’m going to say it’s probably one of the nicest KWC CO2 blowback pistols I have had in my hands to date. The finish is really nice, the polymer frame is flawless and fit is really good with nice tight tolerances throughout. it may even look better to me than the Umarex Glock version it is similar to?
Realism: The KWC K17 Black Barrel CO2 Blowback BB Pistol being a full blowback Airguns is supper realistic in terms of looking like and functioning like a real steel gun. All the parts function as you would expect them to including the ability to filed strip the KWC K17 which gives you easy access to the hop-up. In terms of the KWC K17 Black Barrel CO2 Blowback BB Pistol being a replica it does look similar to Glock with some differences like the trigger guard, slide cut-outs, extended beaver tail and straighter pistol grip. As I shoe in my Review video the parts even mix and match with the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 4 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol we also sell. Available From: The Replica Airguns Store.
Pros:
Good weight with very solid feel to it.
Full blowback action will produce good recoil effect.
Full size drop out metal magazine.
Short and light single action only trigger.
No ugly markings or warnings.
I prefer the more standard look of this Black Barrel Version.
Field strips like the real steel version.
White dot sights front and back.
Adjustable hop-up to adjust for some limited elevation as needed.
Working trigger safety along with serial number safety.
Cons:
Full blowback action will produce lower fps and use up more CO2.
But plate could be more like the Umarex Glock version.
Comments:
I really like the KWC K17 Black Barrel CO2 Blowback BB Pistol as I did the Good Barrel Version, it may even be one of my favorite CO2 Blowback BB Pistols from KWC to date. I am not a huge fan of the Gold barrel version but that’s a personal preference thing. All in all if you’re looking for that Modern Pistol design than the KWC K17 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is going to fit the bill. If you are a Glock fan also make sure to checkout our Umarex Glock line of CO2 BB, Airsoft and even Paintball Replica Pistol in our online Replace Airgun stores…
In this Filed Test Shooting Video recorded in the Replica Airguns Indoor Sea Can Shooting Range, I test out the Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver to find out what the real world velocity is in fps shooting both 4.5mm steel BB’s and .177 caliber lead Pellets. I also shoot a full cylinder or 6 rounds of each ammo type into a paper target setup 30 feet down range again using both BB’s and Pellets to see which ammo type may be more accurate out of the Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver? If you are more interested in details and specifications along with some closer up video of the Crosman SNR357 Revolver then make sure to watch my Table Top Video for it.
Let’s get right to the velocity test of the Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver. Crosman claims up to 400 fps but I am not sure if this is for BB’s or Pellets or maybe even light weight alloy Pellets. In any case I used standard 4.5mm 5.1 grain steel BB’s and around 7 grain lead Pellets for this test. Shooting 3 rounds of 4.5mm steel BB’s through my Chronograph I averaged 332 fps with the three shots recording 327, 344, 325 fps. Switching to lead Pellets I averaged 263 fps with the three recorded shots of 263, 276, 251. The 4.5mm steel BB’s as you can see shot faster than the lead Pellets but this was most likely due to the heavier 7 gram weight of the lead pellets.
Typically Pellets are going to be more accurate than BB’s but in the case of the Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver I actually found the BB’s to be a bit more accurate for me? Again starting with 4.5mm steel BB’s I loaded up 6 sheets with steel 4.5mm BB’s and using single action I shot the entire cylinder into a fresh paper target setup 30 feet away. I did use my standard shooting stance of sitting in the back on a stool and placing my hands on a sand bag up front for some stability. I did notice the Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver liked to shoot a slight bit high and to the left with BB’s but I did get really close to a 1 inch grouping with just one shot coming outside that tighter group. Switching to .177 caliber Pellets shot placement did come down bit an where more centered but the grouping got a bit larger to closer to around 3.5 inches, son in the case of the Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver BB’s did perform better in both velocity and accuracy.
The Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver design has been around for a while basically starting out as the Dan Wesson version back in the day. Crosman has now incorporated the same Revolver into their lineup but with their own branding on it. This basic design has worked well and proven to be reliable and is still current with todays more modern Shell Loading Revolvers. It’s also nice that you have the option of shooting both 4.5mm Steel BB’s and .177 Caliber Pellets as the Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver does come with a set of each shells for a total of 12 shells.
