In this Field Test Shooting Video I put the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle through my standard Replica Airguns Indoor Field Test protocol by first testing out the velocity and placing 5 rounds through my Chronograph to see what the actual real world fps is using 14.3 grain lead pellets. I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet downrange and place 10 pellets into it to see what type of grouping I can get. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video for this Break Barrel Spring Piston Pellet Rifle then make sure to do so for more details, specifications and close up video.
Starting off with my real world velocity test for the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle, I went with 14.3 grain lead pellets which are I would say on the heavier side. Even so I managed to hit 478 fps which produced a nice 7.26 foot pounds of energy which by the way is almost 10 Joules! If you are wondering about Canadian legalities, as long as I do not go over 500 fps AND go over 4.2 foot pounds (both thresholds must be exceeded), then this Airgun is considered a non-regulated firearm and does not require a firearms license.
Moving on to the accuracy portion of my Indoor Field Test in the Replica Airguns Sea Can. As always I placed a brand new paper target 30 feet downrange and proceeded to shoot ten 14.3 grain lead pellets from a rested and seated shooting position to allow for best possible results with as little human error but I am imperfect so some human error is always present. I was using the open fiver optic sights on the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle rather than a scope even thought there is a dovetail rail with included scope stop. To be honest I was expecting a better grouping, something close to half an inch but on this day with this ammo choice I was closer to 1.5 to even 2 inches. I did see several pellets land in a tighter sub group but some came out of this group enlarging the grouping. I would like to try a different pellet choice to see if I can do better as I believe this rifle has way more potential.
In terms of power the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Pellet Rifle is about has high as you can go before it becomes a regulated firearm here in Canada so no complaints in that department. Again I was disappointed in the accuracy but I honestly believe a different pellet choice could fix that problem as I have seen often with other Pellet Rifles. Once the right pellet choice is made and granted a more consistent and tighter grouping is achieved, this Spring Piston Pellet Rifle could make a decent small pest control airgun!
Type: Pellet Rifle. Distributer:Webley & Scott. Model:Valuemax. Materials: Metal and polymer build. Weight: 6.4 pounds (2900 grams). Barrel: 17.7 inches (450mm), rifled. Total Length: 43 inches (1092mm) Propulsion: Spring Piston Action: Break Barrel. Ammunition Type: .22 Caliber Pellets. Ammunition Capacity: Single Shot. FPS: 499.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle is fairly nice There is a little bit of very light take up followed by a vert light release , the take up or travel length can be adjusted on this Air Rifle but that is the only trigger adjustment you can make and perhaps all that is needed.
Accuracy: I have not performed my Field Test Shooting Video for the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle but I did get to take around 20 or so shots with it when I was trying to get it to diesel for me. It looks ot me like it is going to be nice and accurate as I was not even really going for accuracy and it seemed to already be grouping fairly tight. I was recoding fps using my Chronograph as I was trying to find out if by adding some oil to the spring piston chamber could get it to diesel which it never did for me, I was however to establish that the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle shot right around 470-480 fps using 14.3 grain lead pellets which worked out to right around 7.32 foot pounds of energy. I will know a lot more when I do my official Field Test Shooting Video next week.
Build Quality: Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle is built to be a value priced Airgun hence the name (Valuemax), that said it is maid well enough with lots of metal and of course some plastic or in this case mostly nylon as the stock is a solid nylon piece. Other than the stock the plastic parts are found to be in the sights and trigger guard, everything else seems to be metal.
Realism: The Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle is not a replica or copy of any real steel gun in production but it does look like a traditional hunting rifle in basic shape so make sure to transport thank airgun as if it was a real gun. Either in a gun case or perhaps a blanket in your trunk and always obey any laws for gun position and transportation in your area.
Pros:
Inexpensive price tag for well made decent performer.
Initial test showed to have good accuracy and power! (more to come).
Fully adjustable sights with optical TRUGLO Fiber Optics.
Can add a magnified optical scope using the top built in dovetail rail.
Nylon fiber stock is durable and functional with the addition of a vented rubber buttplate.
Trigger feels decent and is also adjustable for travel length.
Rear thumb safety resets after each break of the barrel.
Nice light and short single action trigger.
Would be good for small pest control because of decent FPS and good accuracy.
Cons:
Included sights are mostly plastic.
The Valuemax version has a more basic less adjustable trigger.
Detuned down to under 500 fps for Canada import as non-regulated Firearm.
Comments: I am looking forward to performing my Indoor Field Test Shooting Video for the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle to see what it can really do in terms of accuracy so stay posted for that video next week. Overall if you are lucky enough to already have one or can get your hands on one since this rifle is discontinued in some area, I think this is a great Break Piston Air Rifle especially if you live in Canada and want the most bang for your buck. I am not only talking about cost verses features, I also mean power and energy since the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle is a .22 caliber Air Rifle that can shoot really close to 500 fps with a nice heavy grain lead pellet achieving decent energy levels reasonable enough for small pest control. The Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle is not feature less, it does include a reseting safety, anti bear trap system, dove tail mounts with an included scope stop, fiver optic adjustable sights and a vert ergonomic textured nylon stock. All in all great value for what you pay!
My Vimeo Videos for the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle:
Make sure to watch my Table Top Video Review where I go into more detail about the specifications and details along with some nice close up video of the Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle.
In this Vimeo Video Field Test Review I test out the Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle in the indoor Replica Airguns Shooting Range to see how accurate it is and what kind fo velocity we can expect from it.
Starting with the velocity test I averaged out 8 rounds through my chronograph using 8.18 grain lead pellets using the dual 12 gram CO2 setup and I was able to average 445 fps which is not bad as these are mid grain weight pellets, lighter weight pellets would for sure get closer to the 490 fps claimed by Umarex. The temperate was about average room temp so not overly cold or warm.
Moving on to the accuracy test I placed all 9 rounds from the rotary magazine into a fresh paper target setup 30 feet away. I use a reseted seated position in the back with the Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle resting on a sand bag up front and I was using the 4 power scope for this test which I setup earlier. My final result was for sure an under one half inch grouping, I did feel like I pulled one shot a little bit but I am sure this Airgun can get quarter inch groupings at 30 feet and I would expect half inch groupings at 50 feet so perfect for mid range small pest shooting.
Umarex does adversities this Air rifle as being very quiet but in Canada we are not allowed to have any type of suppressor even on airguns so I believe this Canada version has been disabled in that regard but the Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle is fairly quiet for sure with its long barrel and slightly lower fps than the US version. Overall the Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle is a lot of bang for the buck with the added 4x scope, included magazines that hold 9 rounds each and the ability to use either a dual 12 gram or single 88 gram CO2 setup. It also looks really cool and performs just as good!
Type: Pellet Rifle. Distributer:Umarex. Model:Fusion 2. Materials: Metal and polymer build. Weight: 6.5pounds (2948 grams). Barrel: 22.5 inches, rifled. Total Length: 40.3 inches Propulsion: 12 gram CO2 x2 or 88 gram CO2 x1 Action: Bolt action repeater. Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 9 round rotary magazine x2. FPS: 490.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle feels pretty good, it is fairly short and light having a claimed 3.5 pound release which is believable. You will need to obviously work the bolt for each shot that precooks the internal hammer/striker allowing for the short and light trigger.
Accuracy: I have not performed my Field Test Shooting Video for the Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle so stay posted for that. Umarex has claimed a velocity of around 490 FPS for the Canada version I will be testing, the US version has a claimed velocity of up to 700 for those in the US purchasing this Rifle. I am sure the included 4x32 optical scope once setup will help in the accuracy department when I test this CO2 Air Rifle out on a paper target setup 30 feet down range.
Build Quality: The Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle is a fairly low cost target pellet Rifle when you consider it comes with a decent optical scope along with two 9 round magazines but even so the build quality seems very solid coming in at 6.5 pounds. The stock is plastic of course but there is lots of metal where you want it to be as in the bolt, trigger, safety and most other mechanical parts.
Realism: The Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle is not a replace of any gun I know of but does sport a very modern ergonomic look with its pistol grip and molded full stock. I like the built in picatinny rail which even though it does not offer any type of open sight configuration will allow for a variety of scope mounting options for near or far shooting.
Pros:
Low cost for a full featured Air Rifle with included scope.
Nice ergonomic modern looking design.
Ability to use either 12 gram or 88 gram CO2 cartridges.
Comes with 4x32 optical scope and all mounting hardware needed.
Come with two 9 round rotary magazines.
May be very quiet if the SilencAir technology is not disabled here in Canada?
Single action 3.5 pound trigger fells good.
Safety is large and easy to use.
M-LOK slots for mounting additional hardware.
Cons:
No iron sight option if you would prefer that.
Limited to under 500 fps (Canada version).
Not sure about the functionality of the SilencAir technology in Canada?
Comments: I am looking forward to performing my Indoor Field Test Shooting Video for the Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle to see if it performs as good as it looks. I’ll probably use the duel 12 gram configuration for this test since I don’t plan on shooting 300 rounds with it for my testing. We should also find out if the SilencAir technology has been disabled or not with my Canada version but even so, a 500 fps Air Refile is not going to be all that loud either way at the end of the day. There are not a lot of Bolt Action multi shot pellet Air Rifles out there especially in this price range so I am really hoping it hits a home run when I test it so stay posted for that video…
My Vimeo Videos for the Umarex Fusion 2 CO2 .177 Caliber Bolt Action Pellet Rifle:
In this Preview Unboxing Video I do an Unboxing and take a quick look at three Bolt Action Rifles, two spring powered Airsoft Rifles from ASG and a dual CO2 powered Pellet Rifle from Umarex.
In this Replica Airguns Vimeo Field Test Shooting Video I put the KWC / Umarex Mod. 92 A1 andElite Force 1911 TAC CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistols through my Indoor Sea Can Shooting Test. Fist I find out what the real world velocity is by placing 5 rounds through my Chronograph and average out the FPS. I then shoot 10 rounds on a paper target for 30 feet back using a semi rested shooting position, sand bag up front and seated in the back.
Starting with my velocity test for both CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistols I made sure to use a brand new CO2 along with .25 gram Airsoft BB’s so a bit heavier than what was used for the official stats. Both Umarex Airsoft Pistols shot really similar velocities with the Umarex Beretta Mod. 92 A1 averaging 364 FPS and the Umarex Elite Force 1911 TAC averaging 365 FPS. If I had been using .20 gram Airsoft BB’s I am sure these numbers would have been closer to the claimed 400 or so FPS.
Moving on to the accuracy test again I performed this test which each Umarex CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol. The Umarex Beretta Mod. 92 A1 performed a little bit better than the 1911 with all 10 shots grouping within 1.5 inches and very well centered on the target. The Umarex Elite Force 1911 TAC did have a slightly wider grouping closer to 2 inches and was a lilt bit high on the target but center nicely left to right. Of course the full auto mode on the Umarex Beretta Mod. 92 A1 did not produce anything even close to a tight group but it is always fun shooting in full auto :)
All in all both of these KWC / Umarex CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistols performed well for me in terms of meeting their expectations for velocity and accuracy. We have them in our online Replica Airguns Stores in either KWC Unlicensed or Umarex Licensed versions so take your pick!
In this Vimeo Replica Airguns Update Video I take a look at three CO2 Airguns, one is a 4.5mm Steel BB revolver distributed by Barra and two are CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistols distributed by Umarex. All of these CO2 Airguns I have previously reviewed in slightly different versions either barrel length and finish or Steel BB as compared to 6mm Airsoft So checkout why other reviews on similar version Airguns.
The Barra Barra Schofield CO2 BB Revolver is a replica of the Schofield No. 3 single action revolver and utilizes 6 reloadable shells for a very realistic shooting experience. It is very solid in construction bing made mostly out of metal and weighs in at around 2.4 pounds. This version shots 4.5 mm Steel BBs at a velocity of up to 400 fps. It comes in a variety of barrel lengths and finishes so amen sure to have a look in our Online Replica Airguns Store for what we have available…
Next up from Umarex is the fully licensed Beretta Pietro Mod. 92 A1 CO2 Blowback Semi and Full Auto Airsoft Pistol, this product is distributed by Umarex but is made by KWC. Another solid metal pistol with a hefty 2.4 pound weigth that holds 21 rounds in its full size drop out metal magazine and offers both semi and full auto shooting at the flick of a switch!
Again from Umarex I showcase the Elite Force 1911 Tac CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol and like the Beretta Pietro it too is made in the KWC factory for Umarex. The 1911 Tac as the name suggest is a tactical version of the standard Colt 1911 but with some upgrades like a skeletonized hammer and trigger along with an ambidextrous safety, white dot sights front and back and a picatinny rail on the frame for add ons. You can expect velocity to be somewhere in the 400 fps range and the full size drop out metal magazine holds 15 Airsoft BB’s.
In this Preview Update Video three newer products, two Umarex Airsoft CO2 Blowback Pistols and one CO2 Blowback BB Pistol from Crosman. This is far from a full review which I will remaking for all of these Airguns in the near future. I simply go over some of the main specifications and show you quickly around each Airgun.
In this Field Test Shooting Video I test out Crosman’s latest version to the 357 line of CO2 Revolvers and perform both my Velocity and Accuracy test using both .177 caliber Lead Pellets and 4.5mm Steel BB’s to see which ammo has better velocity/power and is most accurate. Also make sure to watch my Table Tope Video Review where I go ver specifications and features and show the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver up nice and close.
Starting with the velocity portion of my Indoor Field Test Shooting video I placed a brand new 12 gram CO2 into the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver and tested out some 7 grain .177 caliber Lead Pellets. I was able to average 389 fps in what I would consider normal indoor temperature ranges so you can expect a bit higher velocities in outdoor weather conditions. Moving on the 4.5mm 5.1 grain Steel BB’s, I averaged a bit lower at 360 fps which may seem confusing since the Steel BB’s are lighter than the Lead Pellets? The Lead Pellets fit the barrel much more snug stoping any CO2 from getting around them which helps increase the fps over the Steel BB’s which are a hard metal and need to be slightly smaller in diameter and therefore do let some CO2 get by reducing the pressure behind them.
For my accuracy porting of the the Indoor Field Test I was going to place 6 shots from each magazine into my paper target setup 30 feet down range but ended up using all 10 rounds for the pellet magazine, perhaps because I was just having too much fun :) Since the BB magazine only holds 6 rounds my shot grouping for BB’s only included 6 shots so keep that in mind for the final results. All said and done the Lead Pellets outperformed the Steel BB’s once again getting about a 1.5 inch grouping over the 2.5 inch grouping for the Steel BB’s. And I know the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver is more than capable of getting a .5 to 1 inch grouping from previous Field Tests I have made using similar 357 type Crosman Revolvers.
The Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver is just one of those must have old school classic Air Pistols I think everyone should own at least some sort of version of. I do like the look of the Vigilante barrel with it’s more modern and aggressive design and functional top and bottom rails for adding on accessories. The ability to choose what ammo type you want to shoot is also a plus and the price point is bang on for a nice CO2 Air powered Revolver.
Type: Pellet & BB Revolver Manufacturer: Crosman Model:Vigilante Materials: Metal and Plastic. Weight: 2 pounds (908 grams). Barrel: 6 inches rifled. Length: 11.36 inches. Propulsion: CO2 x 1 Action: Revolve , single and double action trigger. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm Steel BB's / .177 caliber Pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 6-BB / 10-Pellet round rotary magazines. FPS: 465-BB’s / 435-Pellets.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver is rather nice in single action with virtually zero take-up and it has a not too light weight with a predictable feel to it. In double action it does get much longer and heavier but still very usable. If you have larger thicker finger then you may want to start off in single action as the finger opening is a bit tight.
Accuracy: I have not specifically tested out the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver so far but I would be very surprised if it was any different than the standard Crosman 357 I tested back in 2012. Other than the shape of the outer barrel, both of these guns are virtually the same including the frame and the 6 inch barrels. Back in 2012 when I tested out the Crosman 357 I averaged 402 fps using 6.9 grain pellets and was able to get a 1 inch multi-shot grouping at 30 feet away from my paper target. Not sure if this was the entire 10 round mag or not? I will be making an update Field Test Shooting Video so we will see if I can replicate these results with the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver.
Build Quality: The Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver is a fairly basic pistol that incorporates a plastic outer barrel and inner steel barrel, the grips are also plastic as expected and so are the magazines and sights. Most everything else is metal including the receiver, trigger and hammer. This line of Crosman 357 pistols has been around for decades so you can expect hours of fun and reliable shooting with it.
Realism: There are for sure a lot more realistic looking Revolvers out there with swing out cylinders that except shells just like their real steel counterparts but where the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver shines is in performance. You will get more shots per CO2, higher fps and better accuracy with the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver over other more realistic Revolvers on the market.
Pros:
Inexpensive Pellet revolver with a proven track record that goes back decades.
Good usage of metal parts where you need them most. (Metal trigger, hammer, frame, barrel, CO2 Tab screw
Single and double action trigger for action and more focused shooting.
Excellent accuracy and good power with a reasonable amount of shots per CO2.
Fully adjustable rear sight.
Can mount a bunch of accessories on the picatinny barrel top and bottom rails.
CO2 and CO2 tab are nicely hidden and use all metal.
Comes with both a Pellet and BB magazine.
Cons:
Outer barrel is plastic but very solid. Metal would have added a bit more weight and perhaps better balance?
Grips and trigger pull length may be a bit long for smaller handed people when shooting in double action.
Not your most realistic revolver in terms of replicas out there but I would say more usable than most.
No white dots on the sights.
The Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver is basically a reskinned Crosman 357 at the end of the day but I have to say it is my favorite looking Crosman 357 out there with its aggressive barrel design. And the added bonus are the top and bottom Picatinny rails which make for mounting accessories like Red Dots, Lasers and Tac Lights super easy! if you’re looking for function over realism at a price point that is more than fair then pick yourself up one of the Crosman Vigilante’s from our Replica Airguns Store!
Type: GBB Airsoft Pistol. Manufacturer: WE Airsoft Model:1039 M2 Materials: Mostly all metal build. Weight: 2.43 pounds (1100 grams). Barrel: 4.53 inches, non-rifled. Length: 8.5 inches. Propulsion: Green Gas Action: Semi & full Auto, single and double action trigger. Ammunition Type: 6mm Plastic Airsoft BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 26 round full size dropout metal magazine. FPS: 366+.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the WE M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is good in both single and double action. Double action as expected has the longer heavier pull but is still smooth and fairly light with a predictable release. Single action shooting has a much shorter trigger pull with a bit of take-up and an even lighter release than in double action shooting mode.
Accuracy: This is one of those times I actually performed my Field Test Portion of my Review first so I do have some feedback in terms of the accuracy and velocity for the WE M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol. WE claims an fps of around 366+ using the extended barrel that comes with it so this is how I tested it. I did use .26 gram airsoft BB’s so the fps was a bit lower but I did get close to 320 fps, So you should expect around a 20% increase in FPS using .20 gram Airsoft BB’s, so closer to 360-380 fps. In terms of accuracy I did notice that the WE M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol shot rather low for me, as much as 8 inches at 30 feet out, perhaps adjustment get hop-up will fix that, at longer ranges it should… That said I found I was able to get around a 1-5.2 inch 10 round grouping at 30 feet out. In terms of full auto, all I can say is don’t expect to hit very much you point at as the gun really likes to rock around!
Build Quality: The WE M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is a really gorgeous looking pistol and has one of my favorite looking finishes in that stainless steel look. You will find it has an overall solid build quality, it is virtually all metal with only the grips and some internal parts like the gas chamber and nozzle being plastic. There is almost zero slide wiggle and all in all this Airsoft pistol performed great for me with no mechanical problems.
Realism: As is with most Full Blowback Airsoft Pistols they are built to look and act the part of their real steel counterparts and the WE M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is no exception! All mechanical parts work as intended and you can easily field strip the WE M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol to swap out the internal barrel and adjust the hop-up. I like the fact that WE Airsoft color matched the magazine rather than simply shipping it with the black magazine as I have found some other companies do.
Pros:
All metal pistol with good weight to it.
Crisp firm full blowback operation.
Excellent fit and finish.
No markings on the metal parts at all, just the WE branding on the grips.
Color matching magazine.
Gun will accept real Beretta M9 grips.
Semi and full auto selector safety switch.
White dot sights front and back.
Good fps, right around the claimed 366 using .20 gram Airsoft BB’s.
Very believable working replica of the real steel Beretta M9 Pistol.
Fully field strip-able.
Comes with extension barrel and replaceable inner barrel if not going to use extension.
Cons:
No marking on the gun if that is important to you?
Shot rather low in my testing but hop-up and barrel change may fix it.
Almost unusable in Full Auto mode.
The WE M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is one of the nicer looking Airsoft Beretta M9 pistols on the market and is comparable in quality to other higher end brands like KWA and KJWorks. The price point is also in line with what you are getting. I really like the Stainless - Silver - Chrome finish or what ever you want to call it… One thing I was not able to determine 100% is if this version is in fact the Gen 2 version but I do believe it is given that it has the black gas tube in it. We just don’t have it advertised as such. If you’re in the market for a Beretta style M9 Pistol then consider the WE M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol as a solid choice.
I haven’t reviewed many WE products over the years as they where not part of our inventory in the Replica Airguns Store. The good news is we do carry a selection of their pistols in our Canada Store including the WE 1039 M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol I review in this video along with some 1911’s. In this Field Test Shooting Video I test out the WE 1039 M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol in the Replica Airguns Sea Can Indoor Shooting Range to find out what the real world velocity and accuracy is.
Starting with the velocity portion of the test I place 6 rounds through my Chronograph using .25 gram Airsoft BB’s and I averaged 317 fps which is about right considering the claimed fps is 366+ using .20 gram Airsoft BB’s. The temperature was also not overly hot or cold in the Sea Can so in warner shooting conditions the fps will up a bit too.
Next I performed my accuracy test where i generally shoot 10 rounds on a paper target for 30 feet back ling a rested shooting position, sand bag up front and sensated in the back. I found the WE 1039 M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol was shooting a good 6-8 inches low at this range with the default hop-up setup so I had to aim near the top of my target to place rounds closer to the bullseye for the sake of the video. I would say the WE 1039 M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is capable of 1-2 inch 10 rod groupings, my test was closer to 2 inches but I can see potential for sub 2 inch groups. A quick hop-up adjustment should bring the aim point closer to where the rounds are actually hitting. I did perform a full auto mag dump and the WE 1039 M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol was able to get through all 26 rounds with a full mag of gas but as expected accuracy was not very goo dat all as the heavy blowback action really throws this gun around.
All in all the WE 1039 M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is a really nice Airsoft pistol that performs fairly well and in a game situation would get the job done nicely. It’s also a real looker with it’s stainless looking finish. Keep posted for my Table Top Video I will be making shortly for the WE 1039 M92 GBB Full Auto Airsoft Pistol.
I was hoping this Field Test Shooting Video would go off without a hitch but I did stubble with the laser a bit, I like to shoot guns straight out of the box without really sighting them in but in the case of an add on laser I was expecting to do some sight adjustments. To my surprise when I placed the laser on the Crosman P1 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback Full Auto BB Pistol the laser red dot lined up almost perfectly with the open sights. Sounds great but during my actual test it seems that the heavy blowback action may have nocked the laser sight around placing the laser red dot way to high making the Crosman P1 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback Full Auto BB Pistol shoot really low for this test. I did figure it out via some trial and error and was able to pull off this Field Test Shooting Review in the end for everyone…
Starting with the Chronograph portion of the Field Test Shooting Video, I placed 5 shots through my Chrony and was able to get an average fps of 315. The temperature was not really cold or hot so on a warmer day I would expect around 330 to 340 fps. I did accidentally shoot off around 5 rounds in full auto at the beginning which may have effected the first couple of higher velocity shots that come out when you are using a new CO2 but there results I got I was happy with and give a more realistic velocity fo the Crosman P1 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback Full Auto BB Pistol.
Next I placed 10 rounds into my paper target setup 30 feet down range and did my best to get them on the paper, as mentioned I had to figure out exactly where the laser red dot was pointing in relation to where the BB’s where hitting and once I figured this out I was able to get 10 rounds all within about 2 inches of each other so not bad for a Blowback CO2 BB Pistol. of course the included Laser Sight is adjustable for windage and elevation so I could line up the laser red dot with the actual shot placement which is something you can not do with the non adjustable open sights.
All in all the Crosman P1 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback Full Auto BB Pistol with Laser performed much like all the other KWC PT92 CO2 Blowback Beretta/Taurus type Airguns, the laser red dot simply allows for a more visual and perhaps faster way to place BB’s on your target, at least once you get it sighted in of course!
Type: BB Pistol. Manufacturer: KWC - Distributed by Crosman. Model:P1. Materials: Mostly all metal build. Weight: 2.44 pounds (1107 grams). Barrel: 4.1 inches, brass, non-rifled. Length: 8.75 inches. Propulsion: 12 gram CO2 x 1. Action: Semi & full single and auto, double action trigger. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 20 round full size dropout metal magazine. FPS: 400.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Crosman P1 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback Full Auto BB Pistol is good in both single and double action. Double action as expected has the longer heavier pull but is still smooth and not too heavy with a predictable release. Single action shooting has a much shorter trigger pull with a slight take-up and even lighter release than in double action mode.
Accuracy: I have not done my shooting Field Test specifically for this Crosman P1 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback Full Auto BB Pistol but I have shot enough of these KWC PT-92 rebranded pistols to know that it should get about a 2 inch 10 shot grouping from 30 feet away in semi auto mode of course. And I expect it to get around 330-340 fps on the Chrono. We will have to wait and see the final results when I get to my performance review.
Build Quality: Like all the KWC full blowback CO2 Airguns, the Crosman P1 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback Full Auto BB Pistol has an overall good build and the design has been out long enough to get any of the bugs worked out by KWC. The fit is good and almost the entire gun is metal so it has great weight to it. Finish wise the electromagnetic coating can wear off in the high spots over time but this is true with real steel blued guns too, it will just happen a bit quicker with the airgun versions.
Realism: Again like the full line of KWC full blowback Pistols, the Crosman P1 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback Full Auto BB Pistol is an amazing replica and looks and functions the part of a real Taurus PT-92 in almost every way including being able to be fully field stripped. You will also find metal working parts in the same places you would find them on the real steal version. only the grips and some internal parts like the gas chamber and nozzle are plastic
Pros:
Pretty much all metal gun with good weight.
Heavy blowback feel.
Nice single and double action trigger.
Semi auto and full auto ready out of the box.
Field strips like the real steel version.
Has been on the market for a while so bugs worked out now.
Nice replica of the Taurus PT-92.
Comes with a laser in the box.
Cons:
Has the ugly white warning instruction on the slide.
Only single white dot on rear sight, would have liked them front and back
Expect to use up CO2 very quickly as is with all KWC full blowback airguns.
Could buy the KWC version and then add your own red dot perhaps for less money?
The Crosman P1 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback Full Auto BB Pistol isn't anything we haven't already seen from KWC or even Crosman for that matter with their PFAM98 (The laser less version) and other Airgun distributers re-branding this same KWC made gun. I do like that the Crosman version is full auto ready out of the box and about their claims of up to 400 fps? Well we will have to see about that as it seems optimist to me based on my other Field Test Shooting Reviews I have done with virtually the same KWC Airguns. The only real unknown going into my Field Test Shooting Review for the Crosman P1 Taurus PT-92 CO2 Blowback Full Auto BB Pistol with be just how well the laser works and if it helps to improve on the accfriay in any way?
I will say right off the bat this Field Test Shooting Video for the Air Venturi 3000 PSI Aluminum HPA Tank with Stock and Adapter did not go as well as I would have wanted it to! The HPA tank itself worked really well but I believe the adapter was faulty as it was destroying the seals on my tank and not regulating very well.
I still wanted to publish this video regardless as not all reviews go as planned, some fail horribly but I would rather be honest and transparent about it rather than have you believe every product is a perfect.
There will always be problems even with really great products there can be defects. I plan to get a new adaptor and try this Field Test Review Video again but for now you can have some fun watching me at least have some success using the Air Venturi 3000 PSI Aluminum HPA Tank with Stock on my Rap4 Rap5 MP5.
You can also watch my Table Top Review Video for more details and info on this product!
I will also be following up my Table Top video with a Field Test Shooting Video to see what possible advantages and disadvantages the Air Venturi 3000 PSI with Stock & Adapter Aluminum Tank has in a real world test of its performance, hopefully all advantages!
Pros:
Compact and is the perfect size to use as a rear buttstock for various 88 Gram and or HPA rifles.
Smaller tank means if you are using a foot pump it won’t take all day to fill up :)
Comes with adapter so can be used with regular HPA and 88 Gram CO2 systems.
Regulated to 1100 psi so should perform better in terms of max velocity and consistency compared to CO2 which is around max 800-900 psi with velocity being effected by cool down.
Not effected by colder temperatures compared to CO2.
Once you have this tank the cost is virtually nothing to shoot compared to expensive 88 Gram CO2 cartages. You just need to buy your pellets or BB’s.
Cons:
Still takes a while to pump up using a foot pump system.
Higher initial cost ($195) than simply buying 88 gram CO2 cartages when you need them.
Will need access to a pump or compressor to use it.
Doesn’t look as good as the supplied buttstock at least with the Sig Sauer MCX and MPX.
Comments:
I guess the question is who is this for? If you are a casual shooter that perhaps owns the Sig MPX or MCX or even another 88 Gram CO2 Air Rifle that the Air Venturi 3000 PSI with Stock & Adapter Aluminum Tank would work with then this may be a bit expensive especially if you don’t have a way to pressurizer the tank at home. On the other hand if you already have a foot pump or air compressor or easy access to one and maybe you have other HPA or CO2 based airguns this tank will work with then it’s kind a no brainer to get it. Maybe you juts want a system that gives you maximum and consistent velocity no matter how cold it is outside. All good reasons to get one in my books.
I thought when I read the one mag instruction guide that I had a good idea on how to use it but there was one area I misunderstood. I thought I needed to pull the tab in and out several times to reload the magazine but in fact I only needed to pull it out once, then shale the magazine back and forth horizontally a few times and then I was good to go.
I also read some other comments that mentioned I didn’t have to take the magazine out every time I reloaded so in this video I test that out to make sure and then one last comment that rather than pulling the charging handle back each time I reloaded I could simply press the bolt release on the right side of the Airgun, and yes this is the case with the Crosman Full Auto rile series.
So here I go a second time in making sure I do it right this time!
I have been wanting to test out the Crosman Full Auto Quick Reload Magazine for a while now and finally got around to it. The weather was cooperating with me so I went outside for this one and setup a bunch of cameras to make the many many magazine reloads a bit more interesting for my viewers.
The Crosman Full Auto Quick Reload Magazine has a hopper that is said to hold around 300 4.5mm Steel BB’s which I can attest it does in fact hold at least 300 BB’s. The Crosman Full Auto Quick Reload Magazine like their regular Crosman Full Auto Magazines holds two 12 gram CO2 Cartridges, so the question is, will I be able to get through most of the 300 BB’s without reloading the CO2?
Watch my struggle a bit to figure out the exactly how to properly use the Crosman Full Auto Quick Reload Magazine and then quickly eat through 300 or so BB’s blasting pop cans down range!
Looking at the 2016 US version of the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifle verses the more resent Canada version we have in our Canada Replica Airguns Store it is hard to really see any difference other than my US version is all black and Canada version is two tone desert tan with black highlights. To be honest I really like both color schemes but that will be a personal preference.
In this Field Test Shooting Comparison video my main goal was to see if there is any significant performance difference between the two versions. Did Sig Sauer perhaps detune the Canada version as is often the case with Canada versions of Airguns? Did Sig Sauer make any changes internally and improve the accuracy or shooting characteristics of their newer Canada model?
I am happy to say both version performed really similar, maybe the US version shot just a little bit hotter but they where within around 5 fps of each other so the same test on a different day could yield the opposite results. The same is true for my accuracy test shooting 10 rounds 30 feet downrange on a paper target. This time the Canada version shot just a tad bit tighter I would say just under an inch grouping but then again the US version was really close with really only 1 pellet extending the grouping out just over an inch. A different test I am sure and the results may be switched? After all I am only human and this was all shot using the open sights on both guns using a sand bag as a rest and sitting in a chair in the back to help with stability.
The good news is we have the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifle available in both our Canada and US online Replica Airguns Stores so where ever you buy them from you are basically getting the exact same gun!
This Table Top Comparison video is also a bit of a revisit since I reviewed the US version of the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifle back in 2016 when it first came out. I actually had to go across the border and bring it back across with me which can be a lot of fun dealing with Canada Customs border agents. They are well meaning but often don’t fully understand their own import guidelines for Airguns. After about an hour or so I was able to convict the CBSA officer that no my Sig Sauer Airguns where not regulated Firearms and no they did not require any registration or transfer permits.
Anyway that was 5 years ago and now we have the Canada import version which makes purchasing one of the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifles so much easier and to be honest there really isn’t any difference as far as I can tell since my original US version even though it had a claimed fps of up to 600 was actually closer to somewhere in the mid 400’s using standard .177 caliber lead pellets.
Below are the basic specifications and if you want more info than that either watch the video or checkout my Original Table Top Review for the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifle since both the original US and newer Canada versions are virtually identical…
Type: Pellet Rifle. Manufacturer: Sig Sauer ASP Model: Sig Sauer MPX ASP Materials: Metal and Nylon Fiber build. Weight: 7 Pounds (3300 Grams). Barrel: 8 inch steelrifled. Propulsion: 88 or 90 Gram CO2. Action: Semi Auto,double action only. Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 30 rounds belt fed. FPS: Up to 575-600 fps (When shot by a Unicorn) Probably closer to around 450fps
I will be following this Tabel Top Review for the US and Canada Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifles with a Field Test Shooting Comparison to see if anything has really changed interns of velocity and accuracy so stay posted for that video coming out very soon…