Make sure to watch my Table Top Review Video if you want more info on the details and specifications for the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol! in this Field Test Shooting video I test out the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol inside the Replica Airguns indoor Sea Can Airgun Range to see how well it performs in terms of Velocity and Accuracy. The temperature was 20 degrees Celsius (68 degrees Fahrenheit) so not too hot or too cold on this test day. I was also using a brand new CO2 along with 5.1 grain RWS zinc coated steel BB’s.
For the first test to find out what the actual velocity is for the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol, I placed 5 rounds through my Chronograph back to back and I was able to get an average of 456 fps with the fastest shoot hitting 460 fps and the slowest shot in the string hitting 451 fps. All within 9 fps of each other so very consistent.
Next I setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range and proceeded to do my best to obtain a 10 shot grouping using a seated and rested shooting position. Most of the shots form the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol where all under 1.5 inches apart, just a little bit high and slightly to the left. I did get a flyer that went a little bit lower than the rest lengthening out the 10 shot grouping to about 2 inches in diameter. I am pretty sure I would be able to get a 1 inch grouping with the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol after some practice.
Overall the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol performed well for me shooting consistently without any issues. The Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol is fairly basic in design but does have the added much suppressor that allows for a longer inner barrel giving it a little more fps. You also have the removable sight rail fi you want to add some optical sights or perhaps a laser or tactical light or maybe all of them? Pickup the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol in a variety of colors over at the Replica Airguns Online Canada and US Stores!
Type: Non-blowback CO2 BB Pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by Daisy. Model:Powerline 5170. Materials: Metal & plastic. Weight: 1.8 pounds. Barrel: Smooth bore goes entire length of much compensator. Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Semi auto non-blowback, double action only trigger. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 21 round drop out plastic magazine. FPS: Claimed 520.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol is that of a Double Action only Trigger and so you will expect it to be on the long side. That said it is smooth all the way through the pull and no overly heavy. It also has a rather satisfying feeling that I can only explain as a feeling that you are working well put together internal metal parts.
Accuracy & Power: At this point I have not shot the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol so I can only quote what Daisy is saying in terms of velocity which is rather optimistic 520fps. This sounds high but we will have to see when I get to the Field Test Shooting Review for the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol.
Build Quality: The Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol seems to be decently made for a mostly plastic airgun. Like I said the metal trigger feels solid and it also has a metal safety which is nice, other than that all other external parts are plastic but it does feel like there are a lot of metal internal parts based on the weight. I would have liked to see more metal in the magazine as it does feel to be the cheapest part of the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol.
Realism: The Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol is basically a replica of a 1911 in most ways. It does have a shorter slide than a standard 1911 but the compensator adds a lot of length back to the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol. The working safety is out of place for a 1911 since it is located where the slide catch would be and does not even look like a 1911 slide catch. The location where the real 1911 safety would be has a moulded in non-working safety. Not to be overly picky but the trigger on a 1911 is also totally different since it would be a very short single action only trigger. The only working parts on the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol are the trigger, safety and magazine release.
Fairly low cost with what looks to be decent fps and hopefully good accuracy.
Has an added compensator that extends the barrel internally.
Double action trigger is very smooth and satisfying feel to it.
Comes with sight rail for addition of top, bottom and side Weaver accessories.
Safety actually looks like part of the gun even though not a 1911 style lever.
CO2 tab is well hidden by magazine but plate.
Weight and feel of gun are pretty good considering so much plastic.
Pretty decent replica of a Colt 1911.
Made in Japan.
Cons:
Will need an optical sight of some sort or will have to take off sight rail to use built in sights.
Drop out magazine is all plastic.
Not many working parts.
Comments:
I’m not really a big fan of all plastic non-blowback airguns but I am willing to give the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol a chance since it does have some things going for it like high fps which I know is important to many of you. The Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol also has a really nice double action trigger which should make shooting it easy and fun. The sight rail also gives the Daisy Powerline 5170 CO2 BB Pistol a lot of versatility when it comes to making the Daisy Powerline 5170 your own by adding on pretty much any accessory you can imagine.
In this comparison video I look at a variety of different 1911 Airguns and compare them to each other to determine which one I feel is the best 1911 Airgun, well at least for me.
In this Field Test Shooting video I test out both the Daisy Powerline 5501 and Daisy Powerline 5502 CO2 Blowback BB pistols to determine what the real work velocity is and also how well they performs in terms of accuracy. To test velocities for both Airguns I use a my Chrony Chronograph and do my best to get 5 good readings which I then average out. I always use a brand new 12 gram CO2 cartridge and generally use 5.1 grain Zink Coated Steel BB's for my entire Field Testing. For my accuracy test, I set myself up 30 feet back using a semi rested position, to do this I place a sand bag up front to rest my hands and gun on and then stand securely in the back while I place 10 rounds on a paper target. There will obviously be some humane factor involved since I am not perfect but I can usually get a good idea on how accurate a given gun is using this method.
During my Velocity or FPS Chronograph testing, I managed to get 4 good readings out of 15 shots with the Daisy Powerline 5501 scoring an average of 367fps. Amazingly my first 5 shots with the Daisy Powerline 5502 all ready perfectly on my Chronograph even though they where moving a good 50fps faster, go figure? My average velocity for this 5 shot sting of shots was 417fps.
For my accuracy testing I was expecting both guns to perform about the same since mechanically they arevirtually the same other than a longer barrel on the 5502. The Daisy Powerline 5501 however seemed to struggle with consistency, it did group well left to right and up and down on the target but the spread was about 5 inches and it should of gotten closer to 2-3 inches in my books for a blowback pistol like this. The Daisy Powerline 5502 did perform better in terms of accuracy getting closer to a 2-3 inch grouping so overall I have to give the Powerline 5502 the advantage in both velocity and accuracy.
Another noteworthy point to mention is how much quieter the Daisy Powerline 5502 is in person! I am assuming the longer barrel along with the compensator perhaps muffling the sound a bit plays a roll in this. Both Daisy Powerline CO2 Blowback BB Pistols have a nice solid blowback action simulating some recoil and the triggers on both are fairly decent being that they simulate more of a double action feel with their long medium weight pull.
I do like the look of the more simplified Daisy Powerline 5501 with it's chrome frame but the performance and accessory option of the Powerline 5502 are a definite benefit for this model.
Materials: Plastic main body with some metal parts.
Weight: 1.6 pounds (708 grams).
Barrel: 5.5 inches - Metal none rifled.
Propulsion: 12 gram CO2.
Action: Blowback single action only.
Ammunition Type: 4.5mm Steel BB's.
Ammunition Capacity: 20 round top loading stick magazine.
FPS: 350+.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is single action only and has about a medium pull to it, not the lightest single action trigger I have shot by far but not too heavy by any means. There is some initial take-up with a noticeable release point.
Accuracy: Make sure to watch my full Field Test Shooting video for th PHOTO4 Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. When performing my usual 30 foot out paper target shooting performance test I was able to get about a 2 inch 10 shot grouping using a semi rested stance. This pistol did shoot rather on the high side so you will have to aim low as the sights are non-adjustable. In terms of velocity I was able to get fairly consistent 350fps performance using a brand new CO2, this is pretty good considering this is a 20 year old pistol and may have been one of the first blowback airguns to hit the market. The Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol was a bit of a CO2 hog only getting around 50 shots out of one 12 gram CO2.
Build Quality: The Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a mainly all metal airgun but it is solid and well built, The plastics used long ago in my opinion are superior in terms of longevity to today plastics. Being a Japan built gun is also a plus and you will find metal parts where they need to be as in the hammer, trigger, barrel, safety and many other internal parts. Keep my used pistol is over 20 years old and still looks and works like new.
Realism: The Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is an obvious replica of a Desert Eagle Semi Auto Pistol, there are no licensed markings but there is no doubt what this gun is intended to look like. In terms of size and overall appearance it is a good copy of a real steel Desert Eagle but it does weigh in a lot lighter being made mostly from plastics. Some mechanical parts are moulded into the gun like the safety and slide catch but the blowback operation helps add back to the realism. Of course the top loading 20 round BB magazine is not at all what you would expect to find on the real Desert Eagle, that said it is practical for loading a BB gun.
In this Field Test Shooting Review I test out an early generation CO2 powered blowback 4.5mm Steel BB shooting Desert Eagle Replica made by Daisy nearly 20 years ago. This is probably one of the first blowback BB guns made and being that I picked it up used and it's around 20 years old, I was not even sure if it would still shoot let alone get any decent results. Either way I figured I would test it out and see for myself.
I have no yet done my official Field Test Shooting Video for the Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol but I have made a preview video for it that you can see here. In short, I picked this nice find up at a local gun show in my area for $75 and it really is in pristine condition, I would say as new condition!
Getting back to the Field Test shooting portion of this review. As per usual I started off by shooting five rounds of 5.1 grain zinc coated RWS steel BB's using a brand new 12 gram CO2 through my Chronograph which actually worked rather well for me this time around. The fastest BB achieved by the Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol was 361fps and the slowest came in at 338fps with a five shot average of 347fps, not bad for a 20 year old blowback BB pistol!
Next up in my Field Test Shooting Review was my accuracy test, and like always, I set myself up 30 feet back shooting from a semi-rested position (Sand bag up front and standing in the back). This shooting position provides a fairly stable shooting platform to get a good idea on the overall accuracy of the gun. Of course the results are a little dependant on how I shoot that day...
I shot 10 rounds through my Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol and they all found their mark on the paper target, a little high but well centered left and right. Most importantly the 10 shot grouping all came in under 2 inches which again kind of surprised me from this old time BB replica pistol. The sights on the Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol are none adjustable so if I plan to shoot targets at this range I will have to aim a little under them, no big deal!
In terms of how this CO2 Blowback BB Replica shoots, it has a fairly nice single action only trigger, not super light but decent enough and the blowback action does cock the hammer back with each shot and also give a little of that simulated recoil effect even with the light plastic slide. One area the Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol did not perform as well as newer BB guns was in the CO2 efficiency, I only got 2 magazines worth of shots so around 40 shots out of a CO2 before the gun would not blowback all the way anymore. Still, I am very happy with this purchase and plan to keep my Daisy Powerline Model 400 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol as it is not easy to come by anymore.
I try and make it to my local gun show which is held in Chilliwack BC about this time each year. It is put on by the Historical Arms Collectors Society of BC and there are generally a lot of used long guns (rifles) some pistols, lots of accessories, knives, hunting gear, knick·knacks and even some antique items. I tend to be looking for airguns or blank guns that are rare or a good deal.
This year I came across a few items that caught my eye. The first item was a Daisy replica 4.5mm BB pistol, I am not a big fan of Daisy replica gun in general as they are usually a far cry from the originals but this Daisy Powerline Model 400 was actually a really good copy of a Desert Eagle in size and looks. Sure it had a lot of plastic in it but it was made in Japan and even being around 20 years olds was holding up really well. This Daisy Powerline 400 even had Blowback which back then was not all that common.
The Daisy Powerline 400 BB Desert Eagle has a 20 round removable magazine that fits along the top of the barrel and it has a claimed fps. It is almost all high grade plastic with the exception of the single action only trigger, safety, hammer, barrel and several internal parts.
The next interesting item I found was a little compact 8mm blank shooter originally made in West Germany. So this blank gun is close to 30 years old. The SM Model 110 8mm Blank Pistol kind of reminds me of my EKOL Tuna in terms of size and functionality since both have the same half slide and magazine release system.
The SM Mod 110 8mm Blank Pistol is front venting and pretty much all metal with reinforced steel areas, it has a 5 round single stack magazine and shoots in single action only.
My last purchase for this show was a new item, here in Canada we generally are not allowed much in the way of items specifically labeled for self defense. There are some work arounds for instance we can carry a knife as long as it is not concealed entirely and we only intend to use it as a tool. We can also carry pepper spray again only for use on animals. Generally speaking we have not been allowed stun guns or tasers here in Canada and even importing them can land you in a lot of trouble! Again it seems a work around has been made, as long as the Stun Gun or Taser is at least 480mm in length then it is not considered a concealable weapon and as long as you have it out on display and only intend to use it on animals that may be a threat to you then all is good :)
The Stun Gun I purchased is basically a baton with a flashlight on the front and a 1 million volt taser on the front of it. You have several options with this device if harm is eminent. You can try blinding the threat with the built in flashlight which is not all that powerful but good for finding your way in dark areas, you can give the attacker a whack with the baton baseball bat style and if none of that is working well let em have the 1 million volt sandwich! We should be getting some of these Stun Baton Flashlights in our Canada Replica Airguns Store at some point so stay posted for that item.
The weather has been bad, cold, wet and dark, not conducive for Airgun testing at all but it has been a long time since I got outside to shoot any of my guns and so I braved the storm and setup all my lights and cameras and made a shooting video for you all :)
I was really curious about the Daisy CO2 Pellet/BB shooters I made a table top review of just recently, the Daisy Powerline 617X and Daisy Powerline Model 008. So I loaded some fresh CO2, a mag of 7 grain lead pellets and a mag of 4.5mm Steel BB's for each gun and conducted my Chronograph and Target tests accordingly.
I shot 5 round of pellets and 5 rounds of steel BB's throughout my Chronograph using the Powerline 617X first and then the Powerline 008 secondly. Both guns performed really close during the chrony section shooting the pellets at close to 400 fps and the steel BB's at just over 400 fps. The Daisy 008 seemed to be releasing more CO2 with each shot because it seemed louder and had more kick, but because of the shorter barrel I did not see an increase in fps over the Daisy 617X. I would image the Daisy 617X will get more shots per CO2 in the long run.
As per my usual target accuracy testing I stepped back 30 feet and emptied a magazine again of both lead pellets and 4.5mm steel BB's for each gun into some paper targets using a semi-rested position (sand bag up front and standing in the back). Again the Daisy Powerline 617X seemed to outperform the Daisy Powerline 008 just a bit getting a little bit tighter grouping with both the lead pellets and steel BB's, right around the 1 inch mark with 6 rounds per ammo type. I think the single action trigger may have helped a bit but I do have to say the double action only trigger on the Daisy Powerline 008 is really nice and smooth making shot placement very easy. This may have been the reason for the very respectable 1.5 inch 8 shot pellet grouping I got with the Daisy 008.
All in all two very nice and versatile pellet/BB shooters from Daisy, worth looking into for sure.
Ammunition Type: .177 caliber lead pellets & 4.5mm Steel BB's.
Ammunition Capacity: 6 round rotary magazine.
FPS: 485 fps using steel BB's.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Daisy Powerline Model 617X CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol is pretty decent on both single and double action, single action of course being shorter and lighter. I even found when adding the 6 shot rotary magazine, this did not effect the trigger pull at all. I would not say the trigger pull is light, but it is not heavy either and the release or breaking point is very predictable which should make the Daisy Powerline Model 617X a pretty good shooter in theory.
Accuracy: This is yet to be determined since I have not yet done my Field Test Shooting review for this airgun. I would expect to get just over 400 fps using lead pellets and as much as verging on 500fps using steel BB's. My prediction is that the pellets will perform best in terms of accuracy since the 5 inch barrel is rifled and the trigger feels good. The sights are not adjustable, but I am hoping the Daisy Powerline Model 617X centers well on target but we will have to find out when I do my shooting review.
Build Quality: The Daisy Powerline Model 617X CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol is made in Japan which is know for producing quality products in general. I would have to say by giving the Powerline 617X a good look over that it appears to be well made with good fit and finish even though most of the gun is plastic on the outside. The metal parts are where they need to be, lots internally in structural areas and externally as in the trigger, hammer, safety, and of course the internal metal rifled barrel.
Realism: The Daisy Powerline Model 617X CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol is a replica of a Beretta Model 92 even thought there are no Beretta markings on the gun. Some of the parts are moulded in like the take down lever, slide catch release and magazine release but on the plus side the ambidextrous safety is in the correct location, working and metal. The internal metal frame give the Daisy Model 617X enough weight to feel good in the hand but is much lighter than a real solid steel Beretta 92. Size is comparable and other than the sticking out CO2 tab this gun does look like a Beretta 92 until you get up close and personal.
Fairly low cost with what looks to be decent fps and hopefully good accuracy. (Around $70-80)
Shoot both .177 caliber lead pellets & 4.5mm Steel BB’s.
Both Single and Double action trigger are smooth and not super heavy, easy to predict breaking points.
Red fiberoptic front sight makes it easy to line up targets in different light situations.
Latch holds barrel in place nice and firmly.
Pretty decent replica of a Beretta Model 92.
Made in Japan.
Cons:
No adjustable sights.
Kind of ugly CO2 tab on bottom of grips.
Only has a 6 shot magazine.
Barrel is not recessed
Comments:
I have heard that this Daisy pistol shoots steel 4.5mm BB's at right up around the 500 fps range so even lead pellets should have good velocity out of the Daisy Powerline Model 617X CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol. The single action trigger has a nice medium pull with a very predictable break so as long as the sights are centered on target well, I should expect a nice grouping. If you like the Beretta style of gun, don't want to spend an arm and a leg on a pellet shooting version, than the Daisy Powerline Model 617X CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol should work well for you.
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the Daisy Powerline Model 617X CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol:
Ammunition Type: .177 caliber lead pellets & 4.5mm Steel BB's.
Ammunition Capacity: 8 round rotary magazine.
FPS: 480 fps using steel BB's.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Daisy Powerline Model 008 CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol is pretty decent considering it is a double action only pistol. The trigger action is relatively short and fluid for a DAO trigger setup and I found when adding the rotary magazine, this did not effect the trigger pull at all. I would not say the trigger pull is light, but it is not heavy either and the release or breaking point is very predictable which should make the Daisy Powerline Model 008 a pretty good shooter in theory.
Accuracy: This is yet to be determined since I have not yet done my Field Test Shooting review. I would expect to get right around 400 fps using lead pellets and as much as 480 fps using steel BB's. My prediction is that the pellets will perform well in terms of accuracy since the barrel is rifled and the trigger feels good. The sights are not adjustable, but I am hoping the Daisy Powerline Model 008 centers well on target but we will have to find out when I do my shooting review.
Build Quality: The Daisy Powerline Model 008 CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol is made in Japan which is know for producing good quality products in general. I would have to say by giving the Powerline 008 a good look over that it appears to be well made with good fit and finish even though most of the gun is plastic. The metal parts are where they need to be, internally in structural areas and externally as in the trigger, hammer, CO2 lever, Safety, and of course the metal rifled barrel.
Realism: The Daisy Powerline Model 008 CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol as far as I can tell is not really a replica of any gun that I am aware of? It does look a bit like the Gamo P-25 I reviewed a while back in overall basic shape but is smaller. The Daisy Powerline Model 008 does look like a gun and the recessed barrel and CO2 loading system that looks like the but plate of the magazine help to make this air pistol look realistic.
Fairly low cost with what looks to be decent fps and hopefully good accuracy. (Around $70-80).
Shoots both .177 caliber lead pellets & 4.5mm steel BB’s.
Double action only trigger is smooth and not super heavy while still being relatively short for a double action trigger, and with an easy to predict breaking point.
Fairly ergonomic gun to hold but grips are a tad bit thick.
Like the CO2 loading design, no tabs sticking out.
Nice and compact.
Made in Japan.
Cons:
No adjustable sights.
No single action trigger.
Grips may be a bit thick for some people with smaller hands.
No markings on the sights for easier target acquisition.
Comments:
I am looking forward to testing this gun out when I do my Field Test Shooting review. No the Daisy Powerline Model 008 is not blowback and it does not have a lot of metal parts but overall the Daisy Powerline Model 008 CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol feels really good in the hand a really nice for a double action only trigger. I am hoping the Daisy Powerline Model 008 CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol shoot pretty hard and hopefully nice and accurate for me. I like the overall size of the Daisy Powerline Model 008, nice and compact with easy to load 8 round pellet and BB magazines which should work well no matter what ammo I choose to go with.
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the Daisy Powerline Model 008 CO2 Pellet-BB Pistol:
It's that time of the year again where I dread having to go outside and do my Field Test Shooting Reviews, it's way too cold so the CO2 guns are not performing at their very best, neither am I since all I'm thinking about is "let's get this over so I can go inside and warm up with a nice cup of coffee ;)". It's also dark and dreary which means the lighting is not so good for the cameras or the chronograph, even with a bunch of extra lights setup, it's just not the same as what a nice bright day can do to spruce up the video and get the chrony to read the pellet speeds.
After some playing around with the lighting, I did manage to get my Chronograph to read a couple of shots and it shot just a bit above 350 fps, I would imagine the Daisy Power Line 2003 Blowback Pellet Pistol should get 400" fps easy on a warm day with a fresh CO2. At least we have an idea of whereabouts it shoots.
Once I finished playing around with my temperamental chronograph, I headed back to the 30 foot mark and took aim at my paper target using a semi rested position (sand bag rest up front, standing in the back). I shot the rest of the magazine, which was around 10 rounds left since I was originally loaded up with 30 rounds and ended up using a lot of them trying to get my Chronograph to read for the first part of the field shooting test.
Even with the fairly wide open sights, I managed to get a very consistent 1.5 inch grouping out my Daisy Power Line 2003 Blowback Pellet Pistol which kind of surprised me since I did not really feel the sight picture was suited for accuracy. Too much open space side to side but none the less it shoot straight and true and even very well centered on target with only a bit of pull to the left.
In terms of shoot-ability, the Daisy Power Line 2003 Blowback Pellet Pistol felt pretty good, the trigger is not the lightest for a single action only trigger but it is short and the break is clean. I had no miss-feeds or jams which I have heard this gun is prone to with some pellets. I did notice when shooting rapid fire without any pellets in the gun, it wanted to go into short full auto bursts, this may have been the cold weather and/or low CO2 playing into things.
All-in-all the Daisy Power Line 2003 Blowback Pellet Pistol is a nice air pistol to shoot even though it is a bit unorthodox looking, kind of a shame it's no longer in production. If you can find one in good working condition at the right price, pick it up because you may not get another chance.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Daisy Power Line 2003 Blowback Pellet Pistol even though it is single action only, is a bit heavier than you may expect, it is more of a medium pull with a very short take up and then somewhat unexpected release due to the medium to heavy pull. Quick shot succession should be achievable though due to the short trigger pull length.
Accuracy: Well we will have to find out in my followup Field Test Shooting Video Review? And I really hope that this pistol is in working order so I am able to bring that review to you shortly. I am expecting it to produce around 400 fps and some decent accuracy with its rifled barrel.
Build Quality: The Daisy Power Line 2003 Blowback Pellet Pistol is made in the US and is primarily a plastic built air pellet pistol, it does have some metal internal parts along with the screws, barrel, cross-bolt safety and CO2 Tab. Fit and finish seem to be fairly decent, in terms of reliability I have no idea but my hopes are high. I have heard that this pistol can jam if not using pellets that are agreeable with it.
Realism: The Daisy Power Line 2003 Blowback Pellet Pistol is not really a replica so to speak, it does kind of resemble a bloated version of a Browning High Power but is much larger and out of proportion when comparing the two of them. The actual mechanical aspects of this gun are not like any other gun I have every come across, specifically when it comes to the 35 shot rotary magazine as the pellets spiral internally from front to back. The single action blowback mechanism is also very unique to an airgun pellet pistol, it has been said that this pistol can be converted to full auto but I have no intensions of doing so.
If you have a Power Line 2003 then you have a really rare gun from Daisy.
True single action Blowback operation.
One of the only Pellet Pistols that can be converted to full auto.
High capacity 35 round pellet magazine.
Made in the US.
Cons:
No longer in production.
Kind of large for a pistol, not true to scale.
Mostly plastic build materials
None adjustable sights.
Comments:
I have had an interest in the Daisy Power Line 2003 for some time but did not know how or if I would ever get my hands on one and lucky for me it finally happened :) The main interest here is simply that it is the only pellet pistol I know of that has a true single action blowback operation and to top things off it has a 35 round magazine! Sure there is the implication that it can be converted to full auto but for me I really want to keep this pistol in factory condition, I have other guns that shooting in full auto if I feel the urge to go Rambo on anything ;) Definitely stay posted for my Field Test Shooting Review for this rare Daisy pellet pistol.
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the Daisy Power Line 2003 Blowback Pellet Pistol:
Here is my official Field Test Shooting Video Review for my Daisy Winchester Model 11 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. Make sure to checkout my previous Table Top Review for more details on the Winchester Model 11 1911 CO2 4.5mm BB version where I also did a pre-test showing similar results.
My 5 shot Chronograph test resulted in a bit lower than previously tested 339 average fps while my accuracy test shot from 20 feet out in a semi rested position got six shots right in the 1.5 inch bullseye with 4 shots coming out a bit, 2 of which spread the group out to about a 3 inch grouping in total. So in terms of shot placement you could say the Daisy Winchester 1911 4.5mm BB Pistol shot very well centered. Agin this time around I got 6 full magazines but had to manually clock teh hammer back on some of the last magazines end shots, power did seem OK even when manually cocking the hammer.
Overall, the Daisy Model 11 4.5mm BB Pistol is nice pretty much all metal low-cost CO2 Blowback BB pistol with good overall performance. This one looks the part of a 1911 even though it may not function 100%. If your OK with close and want to save a few bucks, then teh Daisy Winchester Model 11 may be for you, if you don't mind spending a bit more to get a BB gun as close to a real 1911 A1 as possible than take a look at the KWC/Cybergun Tanfoglio Model 1911 full blowback BB Pistol and Airsoft Pistol versions.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Daisy Winchester Model 11 is very nice, just about the perfect pull weight, not too heavy or too light, it has next to no take-up at all and a nice predictable release point. As is traditional with a 1911 styled pistol, the trigger is single action only so you will need to either pull the hammer back or rack the slide for the first shot, with subsequent shots you will not have to do this as the blowback action cocks the hammer for single action shooting. If your CO2 is very low, the blowback may not be adequate enough to cock the hammer so you can do this manually to get a few extra shots out of the Daisy Model 11.
Accuracy: When I shot the Winchester Model 11 from 20 feet out in a semi rested position, I was able to get some decent results. I placed 10 rounds within about a 2 group and the shot placement was very well centered, just a slight bit to the left. I did get a couple of stragglers that spread the group out just a bit larger but not too much. I did also get right around 350-360 fps on my chronograph on this not so warm day. We will have to see what my dedicated field test results yield for this BB pistol.
Build Quality: The Daisy Model 11 (1911) is made in Japan and has a nice overall finish to it. Other than the plastic magazine and grips it is an all metal gun so the materials used are good. The slide does have a bit of wiggle play in it but so do many blowback air pistols, perhaps to reduce some friction as the slide springs on these guns are not overly heavy. The paint used seems to be holding up very well and looks good, I did notice a molding seem that runs down the underside of the slide and along the trigger guard.
Realism: The Daisy Winchester Model 11 is a replica of the real steel 1911 A1 style 45 auto. It does have the Winchester licensing on it but I am not sure if there is an exact Winchester 1911 this gun is made to replicate. For the most part it looks and functions very similar to a real 1911 with a few exceptions like the lack of a working grip safety, a rather strange two stage safety and also the stick styled smaller magazine. This blowback air pistol can not be field striped conventionally either. I do like the true single action trigger and open ejection port.
Lots of metal in this airgun and good weight to it.
Good overall looking replica of a real 1911.
Reasonably decent blowback feel.
Mid range fps and shots per CO2.
Very nice true single action trigger.
Shots where well centered and got decent accuracy.
Markings and instructions on gun are color matched.
Solid CO2 tightening system, seems to work well once you get the hang of it.
Not bad at all for the lower price point.
Like the open ejection port.
Made in Japan.
Cons:
Kind of funny safety setup, it is redundant?
Has a plastic magazine, would have been nice in metal.
Back strap safety does not actually work but it does move.
Says "clip" instead of "magazine" on gun.
Comments:
I know some people have been hating on this gun for a couple of reason so let's get them out of the way... Yes it has a weird safety setup and I can not tell you why Daisy did this, perhaps they wanted it to be "more safe"? As a 1911 trainer you will have to adapt how you take this gun off of safety over a traditional 1911 setup. The magazine is plastic, not a biggie, if it breaks on you get another one. It's not full blowback like the Cybergun/KWC Tanfoglio 1911, this is true but you do get higher fps and more shots per CO2 out of it because of this. And yes Daisy uses the word "Clip"on the gun instead of the correct term "Magazine". Honestly, the Daisy WInchester Model 11 is a nice overall BB gun and the price point is pretty low for what you get. It looks really good overall and shoots nicely with enough blowback to give you some recoil feel and allow for true single action shooting. You also get decent fps and a good amount of shots from a single CO2 cartridge so stop complaining and just enjoy this gun for what it is!
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the Daisy Winchester Model 11 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol:
I've had lots of requests to review the Daisy Winchester Model 11 and to give my opinion how it stacks up with the Cybergun Tanfoglio Witness 1911. I will be doing a full review of the Daisy Winchester Model 11 Colt 45 1911 replica shortly but wanted to kick things off with my comparison portion.
Your best off to simply watch my Vimeo Video Comparison of the Tanfoglio Witness 1911 and Winchester Model 11 but here are my thoughts on some of similarities, strengths and weaknesses for both 1911 syled airguns.
Similarities:
Both are good replicas of the classic Colt 45 1911 semi auto pistol.
Both shoot 4.5mm Steel BB's and use standard 12 gram CO2.
Both are mostly metal and weigh close to 2 pounds with the Cybergun Tanfoglio Witness weighing about 40 grams more.
Both come in a nice cardboard box.
Both have blowback operation with slides that lock back after the last shot.
Both have true 1911 styled single action only triggers.
Strengths:
The Winchester Model 11 has the higher feet per second rating and gets more shots per CO2 (410fps vs 320fps).
The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 has a full size drop out metal magazine that holds the BB's and CO2.
The Winchester Model 11 is more economical to buy and shoot.
The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 has a more realistic "full" blowback operation.
The Winchester Model 11 has less intrusive warning markings on the slide.
The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 has a working Grip Safety.
The Winchester Model 11 is made in Japan.
The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 can be field stripped similar to a real 1911.
Both have fairly high capacity magazines (16 BB's for the Winchester and 18 BB's for the Tanfoglio).
Weaknesses:
The Winchester Model 11 has a funky extra button on the thumb safety?
The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 tends to use a lot of CO2 with less average fps.
The Winchester Model 11 has more free-play (wiggle) in the slide.
The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 magazine are more expensive and can be hard to find at times.
All in all I really like both guns, and what really counts is how they feel and shoot and after a quick outside testing with the Daisy Winchester Model 11, it seemed to shoot and work pretty good for me. Realists may prefer the Cybergun Tanfoglio Witness 1911 because it is more realistic in terms of how it's built and how it functions but as a daily shooting gun, the Daisy Winchester Model 11 hits harder and gets more shots per CO2, all while still giving the shooter a very realistic 1911 styled shooting experience.
Watch my Vimeo video Comparison of the Daisy Winchester Model 11 vs the Cybergun Tanfoglio Witness 1911:
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Daisy Powerline 5501 is about average, a bit long but fairly smooth and about a medium pull weight. The first part of the action loads a BB into the chamber and the second part releases the hammer which give the pistol a bit of a creepy first stage.
Accuracy: I was not impressed with how my Daisy 5501 performed in the accuracy portion of this review, it got about a 3 inch 8 shot group from 20 feet out in a semi rested position, in comparison many of my BB pistols can easily get a 1 inch grouping shooting this way. I may try a different brand of BB's even though the RWS BB's I used where of high quality, they just may have not suited this pistol? FPS velocities where a bit under the manufacturers claimed ratings but very close at a respectable average of 386 fps with my 8 shot test shooting on a somewhat cold day. Not bad for a blowback pistol!
Build Quality: The Daisy Powerline 5501 is a pretty much all metal pistol with what looks to be very good build quality. The 5501 is made in Japan, I have found most Japanese made guns to be well made in the past. The frame, slide, trigger, safety, slide catch, CO2 screw, and de-cocker are all metal and of course many of the internal parts too. The only plastic parts to speak of are the grips and the magazine. I would have liked to have seen the magazine with more metal in it but for the most part it is protected within the gun so you should be OK.
Realism:The Daisy Powerline 5501 is loosely styled after the Sig Sauer in combination with a Walther semi auto pistol. It is lacking a cut-out ejection port that would have added greatly to its realism. I would have also liked to have seen a metal magazine as it's seems a bit cheap compared to the rest of the pistol. I do like the fact that the barrel tip has a large diameter opening making the gun look more like the larger caliber weapon it is styled after. It's also one of the few BB pistols with a working de-coker on it.
The two-tone look is very nice with a stainless look to the frame.
Accessory rail makes adding a tactical light or laser easy.
Warning instructions on slide are color matched to be more discreet.
Very well designed CO2 tightening system and also well hidden.
Cons:
Did not shoot very accurately for me with the BB's I used.
Ejection port is not cut out, takes away from the realism a bit.
All plastic magazine.
No white dotes on rear sight.
Comments:
All in all I liked this Daisy Powerline 5501, other than the poor results I got in terms of accuracy using my chosen zinc platted RWS BB's, the Powerline 5501 was really very good in all other aspects. I think it is a rather nice looking gun with excellent build quality throughout with lots of metal giving the 5001 a nice 1.5 pounds weight. The Daisy 5501 had very heavy and snappy blowback while retaining decent shots per CO2 and respectable close to 400 fps real world velocities. This Daisy Powerline 5501 blowback BB pistol is priced at well under $100 making it very good value in my mind.
My Vimeo Video Comparison Review for the Daisy Powerline BB Pistol:
I wanted to make a quick video to showcase a few items I will be reviewing and some of which are also for sale in the Replica Airguns Store.
First off we have a few of the new front firing Kimar Model 85's (Orange Slide) left in Canada. I stated out with 9 and I am not down to 3 so hurry on this one if you want one in Canada. If you are in the US, I also have them for sale in my US Replica Airguns Store in both Black and Nickel.
Next up I just wanted to show you a Kimar Lady K that will show up some time down the road in a video review, this item is now in my personal collection and sorry it is not for sale in either my Canada or US store at this time.
I have had lots of requests to review the Daisy Powerline 5501 and to be honest I have wanted to get this one for some time and even though it is available for sale in our US Replica Airguns Store I have not had the opportunity to pick one up until now so look forward to that review again some time down the road...
Last but not least I wanted to give you a closer look at the new Turkish made high powered Webley Tempest I have available in the Canada Store, these ones shoot as hard as legally possible within our Canada limitation to be classified as uncontrolled firearms and they make great compact pest control pistols that you can keep handy for when required.
OK, so that's it for now and be sure to watch the full reviews of these guns when I get to them shortly!
